Take our country back! How?

[san clemente]

This is great! I was hoping to see lots of varying ideas and opinions. I'm new to the site so I didn't know quite what to expect... I'm not disappointed.

If you couldn't already tell, I'm in the... "we need to get our sh#t together quick" camp.

The moment I became convinced this was going to be a monumentous challenge was when the GOP squandered its last possible claim to a higher purpose. They had the chance to pull every single earmark out of the budget bill and allow the dems to look like the fools they are. But, they chose pork over promise... Imagine the high ground we could have occupied if they had just said "no".

So from this point we must begin.I agree.

I think that it's good to to critique the GOP and talk about where to go next. You have to be able to understand your own short comings before you can move on. Trag has it right about marketing your product properly. Really, I think that's where the dems excelled. And while they were doing so, the GOP seemed to be unable to keep up. They were painted as out of touch and it worked. When the dem campaign went to txt mssge in announcing the VP candidate, the twittering, and all of the web stuff, the GOP didn't really know how to respond. And when they did respond, it was almost with an arrogance saying that the people wanted substance over flash. Why couldn't the GOP have had the same flash WITH the substance?

Now is the time for the GOP to right the ship. I think that a lot of change is needed in doing so. That's why I also think that the current GOP faces need to go backstage and get the fresh blood out there. The current guys (romney and the others) could do more by coaching away from the public eye.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

But at the same time, obama and the dems had the entire MSM to back him up and then the was that little issue of him taking private money when he said he'd take public.

So while the GOP ran a semi boring campaign, at least McCain didn't take private money.

You all realise how we got ====ed with obama taking private money....right?

[san clemente]

Totally screwed with the private money. I think though that had the roles been reversed, the GOP probably would have done the same.

I've actually wondered if the GOP knew that they were in for a loss and threw McCain out there as the sacrificial lamb. The guys all dropped out pretty quickly and fell in line behind McCain with the exception of Huckabee. I know that I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I have wondered about that.

[Ne0LyFeiSm]

But at the same time, obama and the dems had the entire MSM to back him up and then the was that little issue of him taking private money when he said he'd take public.

So while the GOP ran a semi boring campaign, at least McCain didn't take private money.

You all realise how we got ====ed with obama taking private money....right?

SC, I wholeheartedly agree with the spirit of your post. I don't consider myself a republican. Rather, I see myself as a conservative with a very slight lean towards certain liberal positions. That being said, WAA hit the nail on the head. While Auri and others point out that R's simply need to articulate WHY they say NO, it won't mean anything if the playing field isn't level. Considering that the MSM pretty much openly campaigned for Obama, there really wasn't going to be much light to shine on the opposition.

Nonetheless, the GOP as a party need to develop and clear message that does not water down the spirit of conservatism, but rather sheds light on why it is the better position to support, especially on the most pressing issues facing the citizens of our great country.

[Topiary Lady]

Morocco? Why would I go to Morocco?

Oh...I meant Paris. No - New York. Yeah, that's it....New York. Did I get it right now, jb? Um...I mean GodAndParty? :rolleyes:

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

SC, I wholeheartedly agree with the spirit of your post. I don't consider myself a republican. Rather, I see myself as a conservative with a very slight lean towards certain liberal positions. That being said, WAA hit the nail on the head. While Auri and others point out that R's simply need to articulate WHY they say NO, it won't mean anything if the playing field isn't level. Considering that the MSM pretty much openly campaigned for Obama, there really wasn't going to be much light to shine on the opposition.

Nonetheless, the GOP as a party need to develop and clear message that does not water down the spirit of conservatism, but rather sheds light on why it is the better position to support, especially on the most pressing issues facing the citizens of our great country.

Yet despite all that....obama almost lost the election

[Rob]

I think the GOP will be back when the Donkeys give it to us... but that is not as bad as it sounds because they are in the process of doing it right now. I think people are finally seeing that the all-Democratic 3-way we've got now is bad for America, and Dems will lose seats. I also think we will see a lot more minority and women leaders like Jindal and Palin to try to shed some of the old-white-man image that the GOP has now... on the flip side of that coin I think Dems are starting to get branded as the party of the college kids and the trendy, which is probably not good for them in the long run. Make no mistake, the average American likes Obama but not enough to wear his face on a T-Shirt... and I think in the long run this hype is going to deflate their party and the GOP will be back. Especially if they get Franken in to the Senate and we really lose the 2nd party in our two-party system... that won't go un-noticed, and while stupid people have let that happen now, they won't be so foolish to allow it to continue once it is official that nobody needs to listen to Republicans anymore.

[GodAndParty]

Oh...I meant Paris. No - New York. Yeah, that's it....New York. Did I get it right now, jb? Um...I mean GodAndParty? :rolleyes:

:confused: What are you talking about, Topiary_Lady?


Make no mistake, the average American likes Obama but not enough to wear his face on a T-Shirt...
I keep seeing those shirts everywhere

[jbeukema]

Wow, TL.. here we go again, eh?
If the gop wants to get he people back, grow a pair and get some principles- let the DNC destroy itself

[Topiary Lady]

I wouldn't bother with that if I were you, jb. I was here on the site when you were registering your new name (GodAndParty) the other day and watched your every move. Guess what? You screwed up at one point - and I caught it. Not that I wouldn't have also been able to see it all later on...

So much for your self-superior little ego, eh? How does it feel to be a rat caught in a trap? :icon_lol:

Now, about SanC's thread...

I believe that the outrage is building against Chairman O and the Dem's. Anger, when properly administered and well intentioned, is a good thing.

Obama is every bit the radical that we said he was. So what now? Two distinct groups will have to emerge. The Specter's and McCains and Powell's of the country are now fully naked in thier liberalism.

There will either be a small group of true conservatives who are not afraid to state their true views and re-claim the GOP, or the GOP will be lost - for good. The patriots are pissed and we want - no - DEMAND that we have our country back.

Whatever it takes. That's the new motto.

[jbeukema]

it's the Great Quote all over again...

Conservatism= no change = by the time you get into office, keeping Obama's ways

[Topiary Lady]

it's the Great Quote all over again...

Conservatism= no change = by the time you get into office, keeping Obama's ways

TAR Pals, you all know how much I love this site and the genuine people here. And I know that there are others here who feel the same about this little place.

Trolls will always be with us. I think that it's just unavoidable. So my advice is, to just be thinking about the intentions behind the posts here on TAR, as well as other places. There are some who come here and don't give you their true opinions or idea's. But rather, some fakery to either rile you up, or reel you in.

Most of us know one another rather well at this point. Newbies are always welcome and many of us look forward to them showing up. I've just invited in a new gal pal of mine and I really hope she joins up! Man, this woman is a firecracker!

Just be watchful and match things up. Let us true TheAmericanRight members do what we can to keep our site in tact.

I really hate to see it when some people come here simply to antagonize and then end up driving away good members. Unfortunatly, I've seen more than my share of it. I do thank the people who do communicate with me over this though. It is because of your, and my concerns, that I am making this post.

IHL, you have good members who love this site. I try to do what I can to keep them here. Some have left though. And it is because of people who have come back time and time again to just to be assholes, just for their own sick pleasure.

That's not criticism for you, IHL. I don't even know if it's preventable, but I just want you to know what has gone on. It kills me when I see good people leave this site, because of trolls.

I am only posting this, because I genuinely care about the site. If anyone wants to criticize me for it, then so be it.

~TL

[Topiary Lady]

it's the Great Quote all over again...

Conservatism= no change = by the time you get into office, keeping Obama's ways

See TAR pals? THIS is who and what jb was and IS all about. There have been and will be others like him on TAR.

Let's learn and move on.

[jbeukema]

See TAR pals? THIS is who and what jb was and IS all about. There have been and will be others like him on TAR.

Let's learn and move on.


Yep...JB is all about PROGRESS, and RESTORING THE PRINCIPLES AND VALUES THAT MADE AMERICA GREAT

JB is about principles, values, and bettering the nation- apparently, that's a bad thing, now

[GodAndParty]

I wouldn't bother with that if I were you, jb. I was here on the site when you were registering your new name (GodAndParty) the other day


Wait, how did I get dragged into this?:confused:



Conservatism= no change = by the time you get into office, keeping Obama's ways

Defining the word doesn't men you know what it really means