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Breeze
02-13-2009, 06:06 PM
Just wanted to post this picture for everyone to see, and while maybe you've seen it before, or if it's on TAR already, I thought it worth sharing.

Either way I hope you enjoy it and find a minute to share something as well.

Made me smile and also think, serious thoughts due to where we are right now as a country. Not just our economy, but our morals, morale, and our ability to stand together.

I personally feel a heaviness when it comes to it all, and all I can do is hold strong to my faith and pray. I don't like all the unease and not knowing; not knowing how far this is gonna go and at what point things are gonna stop and/or turn around.

I have two small children at home and one can only hope that things start to look up soon, long before they have to start making schooling and career choices. Instead of getting all melancholy I will steal a line from my hubby WAA 'I'm gonna bail'.

If you feel there are any pictures, quotes, anecdotes you'd like to share about this great country, her people or yourself....feel free.

Enjoy!

:icon_wink

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa118/breeze1970/PATRIOTISM.jpg

Topiary Lady
02-13-2009, 06:15 PM
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I like it, Breeze. Glad to see you here again.

jbeukema
02-13-2009, 06:35 PM
http://www.walkingboston.com/history/timeline/pictures/tree.gif

http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=91539&rendTypeId=4

jbeukema
02-13-2009, 06:46 PM
JB's latest find. Bill of Demands (http://truesonsofliberty.com/tsol.pdf)

conservativecanadian
02-13-2009, 07:16 PM
God I wish the captain america movie would hurry up and be made, it'll be fantastic

jbeukema
02-13-2009, 08:15 PM
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q65/30sweetangel30/bigrightwing-extremist-oath-1.jpg

Aurelius
02-13-2009, 10:01 PM
I love the new found Republican realization that you don't have to march lockstep with the President. If only you folks would have remembered that during the Bush years maybe your party wouldn't be in shambles and you'd have a few remaining leaders.

Topiary Lady
02-13-2009, 10:10 PM
You have GOT to be kidding, Auri. Plenty of people here were critical of some of the things President Bush did. He spent too much. He did virtually nothing to secure our border. Harriet Meyers. Dubai Ports. Amnesty. "Lockstep"? Hardly.

Aurelius
02-13-2009, 10:18 PM
Those are definitely on the top 100 most important decisions list and also are totally what alienated the majority.

scarymary
02-13-2009, 10:22 PM
Have you ever heard of the Constitution Auri?

scarymary
02-13-2009, 10:29 PM
Those are definitely on the top 100 most important decisions list and also are totally what alienated the majority.

Alienated what majority? The majority of the centrist liberals? Most people in this country are opposed to illegal immigration. They know what it has cost this country in the terms of employment, government assisted programs, and culture. I submit to you anyone who advocates illegal immigration is not a conservative.

Topiary Lady
02-13-2009, 10:52 PM
Here's my hero:

Then:
http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=peteat19yearsyoungsf3.png


Now:
http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kodak448oi3.jpg

Dr. Madd
02-14-2009, 04:33 AM
I love the new found Republican realization that you don't have to march lockstep with the President. If only you folks would have remembered that during the Bush years maybe your party wouldn't be in shambles and you'd have a few remaining leaders.

I would dissect you, but this thread ain't about you. This is about America.

As read by John Wayne

The Hyphen


as read by John Wayne, 1973


The hyphen. Webster’s dictionary defines as a symbol used to divide a compound word or a single word.



So it seems to me that when a man calls himself Afro-American or Mexican-American or Italian-American or Irish-American or Jewish-American, what he’s saying is “I’m a divided American.”



Well, we all came from other places, different creeds, different races, to form a nation, to become as one. Yet look at the harm a line has done, a simple little line, and, yet, as divisive as a line can get. A crooked cross the Nazis flew, and the Russian hammer and sickle, too – time bombs in the lives of Man.



But none of these could ever fan the flames of hatred faster than the hyphen.



The Russian hammer built a wall that locks men’s hearts from freedom’s call. The crooked cross flew overhead above 20 million tragic dead, among them, men from this great nation who died for Freedom’s preservation.



A hyphen is a line that’s small. It can be a bridge or it can be a wall. A bridge can save you lots of time; a wall you always have to climb.



The road to Liberty lies true. The hyphen’s use is up to you.



Used as a bridge, it can span all the differences of Man. Being free in mind and soul should be our most important goal.



But, if you use the hyphen as a wall, you’ll make your life mean and small.



An American is a special breed whose People came to her in need. They came to her that they might find a world where they’d have peace of mind, where men are equal, and (something more), stand taller than they stood before.



So you be wise in your decision, and that little line won’t cause division. Let’s join hands with one another, for in this land, each man’s your brother. United we stand; divided we fall.



We’re Americans. That says it all.

jbeukema
02-14-2009, 02:45 PM
Great post, Madd...

WhiteAfricanAmerican
02-14-2009, 03:10 PM
Those are definitely on the top 100 most important decisions list and also are totally what alienated the majority.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA

That has to be the most ridiculous thing I've heard???

The majority......

You mean 1% more than voted for Bush?????
What was the break down of the Popular Vote again?? 48/52????

The ONLY reason Obama won this election was all the black voters that showed up to vote for the 1st Black President.

By the way, Obama didn't win this election, he ALMOST LOST IT!

Funny how 51% for Bush is a split country, but 52% for Obama is somehow a friggin landslide.

With all the forces arrayed against McCain Obama still only beat him with 4%, which I'd wager is the exact percentage of the racists that showed up to vote for Obama and who voted a straight Dem ticket.

Mark my word Aurlius, your party's days of fielding a white President are OVER. The next time you fools put up a white candidate.....you will loose because that extra 4% won't show up...

Mass action is a bitch like that.

jbeukema
02-14-2009, 04:24 PM
Thay've yet to play the Brown card....

Aurelius
02-14-2009, 05:27 PM
Buh?

2000:
Gore - 48.4% popular 266 electoral
Bush - 47.9% popular 271 electoral

Winner: -.5% popular +5 electoral

2004:
Kerry - 48.4% popular 251 electoral
Bush - 50.7% popular 286 electoral

Winner: +2.3% popular electoral 35

2008:
McCain - 45.7% popular 173 electoral
Obama - 52.9% popular 364 electoral

Winner: +7.2% popular +191 electoral

Black Voting Differences:

2004 -
11% of the electorate
13,317,595 voted
Kerry - 88% 11,719,483
Bush - 11% 1,464,935

2008 -
12% of the electorate
15,027,108 voted
McCain - 5% 751,355
Obama - 95% 14,275,752

"New" Obama votes - 2,556,269
"Lost" McCain votes - 713,580

Shift of 2008 to 2004 statistics:
Total Votes - 127,549,022
McCain - 60,648,394 47.5% popular
Obama - 66,900,628 51.1% popular

Estimated Electoral Redistribution:
Indiana - 11: McCain
North Carolina - 15: McCain
Florida - 27: McCain

McCain - 226
Obama - 312

Results:
Winner - Obama - +3.6% popular +86 electoral

Conclusion:
The increase of black voting in the 2008 campaign was not relevant to Obama's win, but it did cause him to have the strongest showing since the Reagan-Bush era.


Oh and I had fun playing with easy statistics.

WhiteAfricanAmerican
02-14-2009, 06:08 PM
And you got your numbers from where?

Then there's this:

http://www-personal.umich.edu/%7Emejn/election/2008/countymapredbluer512.png


Yup, that's one country that swings for Obama

jbeukema
02-14-2009, 06:15 PM
Not only the blacks... he managd to woo blacks by playing the race card, gays by letting the Republicans make themselves look like they want to burn all homosexuals at the stake, Mexicans with illegal cousins by appealing to the amnesty/anti-sovereignty crowd, and the uneducated poor by promising, in effect, the redistribution of wealth...

meanwhile, MCCain lacked the true support of the Republican base (RINO), and the Republicans STILL look like christian extremists who don't CARE about the poor's burden... the Republicans promise tax cuts, bu always deliver them to large corporations- which is always perceived as scratching back...

When the populace looks to the Right, they see the ann coulter types- those who seem bitter towards the poor and would use government as a de facto theocracy...

when the masses look left, they see the same promises and dreams with which Mao and Lenin captured the imaginations of the downtrodden..

as when we defined the middle class... many are beginning to see America's caste system in much the same way the Chinese viewed theirs...

WhiteAfricanAmerican
02-14-2009, 06:18 PM
Then of course there's the MSM that was carrying Obama the entire time thru the primaries and into the election. And he still almost lost.

jbeukema
02-14-2009, 06:19 PM
And you got your numbers from where?

Then there's this:
Yup, that's one country that swings for Obama

The Reps seem to have dominated the rural ares... where people understand work... Obama seems to have the cities....
Then of course there's the MSM that was carrying Obama the entire time thru the primaries and into the election. And he still almost lost.

It truly was nothing more than a po;ularity contest. Ask nearly any Obama supporter what his position was during the campaign and they couldn't answer... they just mumbled 'change' and 'not Bush'...

now, they still repeat the slogans with little to no understanding of the government or how the nation works...

I was a Ron Paul guy... idealistic and unrealistic, perhaps... but MCCain and Obama was asking me to choose the lesser evil when both were pretty bad...

maybe if he'd ticketed with Romney or something...

WhiteAfricanAmerican
02-14-2009, 06:40 PM
I'd have taken a serious look at Ron Paul, except his foreign policy left much to be desired. Then of course there was that little quip of his about 9/11 essentially being our own fault.

The dude didn't get enough face time in the media, people barely knew who he was.....

If I was him, I'd find a protege that thinks like him, and jam that guy in front of every camera he can find....

I held my nose and voted for McCain, I thought Palin was a good move, if for no other reason than the fact that she was one of us.

She was the only one of the four that wasn't born with a silver spoon in her mouth.
She might have been a bit inexperienced or should I say undoctrinated, but I see that as a plus.

jbeukema
02-14-2009, 06:43 PM
You have to admit that our foreign policy plays a HUGE part in making us such a bigger target than, say Canada...

Ron Paul has no mass appeal... he comes across as a Far-Right old guy.. his PR sucks...

then again, the whole Party's PR sucks.... that's part of the problem....

WhiteAfricanAmerican
02-14-2009, 06:52 PM
I don't. I think the reason why we're a target is because we've been the pivot point for world histroy since the country was born.

It's like the workers that hate their employer but keep coming to work because they need the money.

So many country's depend on the US, and they hate us for it. We could shit gold bricks and we'd still be hated. For people like OBL, they'll come up with any excuse to wage war on the US.

To an extent I can't wait for China to take over primo world super power, because you'll see that a vast amount of the animosity will shift from us to them.

jbeukema
02-14-2009, 07:16 PM
we've been the pivot point for world histroy since the country was born

Because of our early expansionist policies and our role as the World Constable

Don't get me wrong, we can't turn back now- bu honesty requires we admit we have ways of pissing people off

this is how we are viewed..
http://truthalliance.net/Portals/0/Archive/Gallery/27/empire.gif

http://www.globalpolicy.org/images/empire/intervention/Worldwide%20Network%20of%20US%20Military%20Bases/map%202.jpg
I couldn't find the old one of the eagle spreading her wings across the globe...