Infanticide in China

[FKLBRLS]

I got what you were saying, I was just pointing out the fun play on words.

[i_love_being_so_wicked]

KSig, I don't believe that people don't choose to be gay, I know for a fact that they don't choose to be gay. Seriously they are born that way and if you ask any person who is gay they will tell you. They realize they are gay around when puberty starts in them. There are some people who will experiment with homosexuality just because they are curious but that is only a small majority. There is a chemical imbalance in their brain and that is what makes a homosexual have that attraction. They can't help it that they are not normal. That is why I think it is ridiculous to say that Chinese men will become homosexuals if there are not enough women around. They will just end up bachelors or they will move to another country to find women. Seriously, everyone out there who thinks people choose to be gay needs to do a little research instead of making assumptions. I have talked to many of my gay friends about what people think about homosexuals and they just laugh and say that they wish they were not attracted to the same sex. I wish more people would be accepting of homosexuals because many of them have conservative beliefs and we should be recruiting them into our party to make it stronger instead of letting them side up with the liberals.

[The Hawk]

A-MEN to that Brother Madd!

China is an OUTRIGHT MOCKERY of Capitalism. It is otherwise-capitalist companies using the communist economic system to their own gain. It is like companies are saying "yeah, the labor in capitalist countries doesn't work for us, so we're going to start courting communism instead."

If a company did this in those fun anti-red days of the 1950s, I think an angry mob would form outside corporate headquarters and the CEO who made the China decision would be killed by this mob.

WE are the ones allowing China to become a superpower. WE are the ones who hold the power to stop China. WE created the monster, and WE are the ones with the power to vanquish it.

So-called "capitalist trade" in China is really communists' best argument against capitalism. Because basically our trade with China reflects laying down capitalism at the feet of communist overlords. It would be like trading with Soviet Russia.

I agree that China uses slave labor, there's no argument, thats more of a fact. And I agree that we are the reason for their economic success. However, I see no reason to be threatened by them. Just because there's another country with economic prosperity is no reason for us to be insecure. Financially prosperous nations aren't the ones who start wars, its those countries in economic ruin seeking economic gain who are consistently the aggressors.
Also, it is true that China has become leaned more towards capitalism in that citizens have more freedom in their private investment and entrepreneurship. Still, I'll concede that the government is still the ultimate source of authority.

[The Hawk]

There IS a chemical imbalance and it CAN be corrected. It may require life long treatment to sustain the balance, but impossible to change its not. Here's where free will comes into play. If gays want to change, they'll search out the remedy.

But this has nothing to do with the original intent of the thread.

See, Wadi, we can agree on something! Though I'll stick further with the conviction that homosexuality is a choice.

[goofythekiller]

KSigMason, I think you make some valid points. China will certainly go through some social problems. But taking that and turning it into an argument that China is going to fall simply doesn't add up. Sure, their population will fall, but it won't fall to the point where they won't have soldiers or where much of what you describe will happen.
Japan is going to be hit even worse. Would you then argue that Japan is going to fall?

And you'd be foolish to think the Chinese don't know about this and won't take any action.

[goofythekiller]

I agree that China uses slave labor, there's no argument, thats more of a fact. And I agree that we are the reason for their economic success. However, I see no reason to be threatened by them. Just because there's another country with economic prosperity is no reason for us to be insecure. Financially prosperous nations aren't the ones who start wars, its those countries in economic ruin seeking economic gain who are consistently the aggressors.
Also, it is true that China has become leaned more towards capitalism in that citizens have more freedom in their private investment and entrepreneurship. Still, I'll concede that the government is still the ultimate source of authority.

I completely agree. China needs the US. They don't want us to go down nor to attack us, because if they do, their economy collapses.

China right now is a capitalist nation and they're moving very quickly towards more private ownership and rights. My high school history teacher once said it will only be a matter of time until communism collapses in China. They're already economically capitalist and that requires free enterprise and private ownership. Capitalism requires more freedom and is it not compatible with socialism. If China wants to keep its staggering economic growth, it will have to move towards a more Democratic system. Given their recent actions, it seems they're doing just that.


The Chinese government has moved to ease restrictions on private enterprise, in a major ideological shift designed to boost economic growth.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/591841.stm

[Dr. Madd]

I completely agree. China needs the US. They don't want us to go down nor to attack us, because if they do, their economy collapses.

China right now is a capitalist nation and they're moving very quickly towards more private ownership and rights. My high school history teacher once said it will only be a matter of time until communism collapses in China. They're already economically capitalist and that requires free enterprise and private ownership. Capitalism requires more freedom and is it not compatible with socialism. If China wants to keep its staggering economic growth, it will have to move towards a more Democratic system. Given their recent actions, it seems they're doing just that.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/591841.stm

As Long as China can provide cheap labor by the whip they will.

[goofythekiller]

^I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

China skeptics should watch this short documentary called "Brits get rich in China":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_n4pTMJLnE

It follows four British entrepreneurs who go to China to pretty much get rich. This should dispel any doubts that China is a capitalist country.

[KSigMason]

KSigMason, I think you make some valid points.You know goofy, I'll never let you forget this. :icon_lol:

[goofythekiller]

You know goofy, I'll never let you forget this. :icon_lol:

LOL, I don't mind. You're an educated person and you're bound to make valid points once in a while :icon_wink

[Dr. Madd]

^I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

China skeptics should watch this short documentary called "Brits get rich in China":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_n4pTMJLnE

It follows four British entrepreneurs who go to China to pretty much get rich. This should dispel any doubts that China is a capitalist country.

But if you wanted to lull an enemy into complacency, wouldn't you want them to think you were NOT threatening? Ok, so they give a fortune to Four Englishmen. Then when we let down our guard, whammo. Stalin himself said, two steps forward, one step back.

[KSigMason]

LOL, I don't mind. You're an educated person and you're bound to make valid points once in a while :icon_winkLOL. :icon_twis Cheers!