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thumbelina
03-31-2007, 12:13 PM
When does the unborn baby's heart begin to beat?


The heartbeat begins on the 21st day after conception. (More Details (http://www.abortionfacts.com/literature/literature_9438MS.asp#day21))


When does the brain begin to function?


Electrical brain waves have been recorded as early as forty days. (More Details (http://www.abortionfacts.com/literature/literature_9438MS.asp#day44))


How early can a baby survive outside the mother's womb?


Currently, twenty weeks is considered the accepted minimum. However, this time will be reduced as medical technology continues to improve.


What about cases of rape and incest?


Pregnancy from rape is extremely rare. As reasons for legalizing abortion rape and incest are nothing more than emotional screens used by those profiting from abortion. But we must approach the victim of rape or incest with great compassion. The woman has been subjected to an ugly trauma, and she needs love, support and help. But she has been the victim of one violent act. Should we now ask her to be a party to a second violent act -that of abortion? Unquestionably, many would return the violence of killing an innocent baby for the violence of rape. But, before making this decision, remember that most of the trauma has already occurred. She has been raped. That trauma will live with her all her life. Furthermore, this girl did not report for help, but kept this to herself. For several weeks or months, she has thought of little else. Now, she has finally asked for help, has shared her upset, and should be in a supportive situation. more information (http://www.abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_love_them_both_29.asp)


But what about the child with disease who will die a slow death or live his life as a burden to his family?


Do you believe the new "ethic" should be that we kill the suffering or burdensome? Some of these cases are tragic, some are also inspirational. We cannot assume the responsibility for killing an unborn child simply because the child has not yet been seen in public. The child's place of residence does not change what abortion does - kill a human being.


What about the population boom? We can hardly feed the people of the world now!


True, the population of the world is growing, but population is not much of a problem in the United States. With a birth every 8 seconds and a death every 11 seconds, the U.S. population is growing at less than one percent per year. (www.census.gov (http://www.census.gov/))


Population growth or decline compares replacement of the current number of reproductive age individuals with the number of babies being born. By this measure, the United States is now in a sharp population decline.


How can a girl give up her own baby for adoption and go through life never knowing what is happening to her child?


Which is better to remember, "I gave my baby life. And because I loved him, I gave him into the arms of a loving couple" - or to remember, "I selfishly ended my baby's life?" (More Details (http://www.abortionfacts.com/literature/literature_9439PA.asp))

Bumblebee
03-31-2007, 11:36 PM
Thanks thumby, I keep a lot of stuff I filed on abortion, like gruesome videos and pictures of aborted babies, I just filed yours.

I'm adding todays news on abortion in Arizona.
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/metro/176190.php

LiberalsAreBabyKillers!
04-03-2007, 08:55 PM
Oh man, an abortion thread, everyone who's been at this site a while knows that this is my biggest issue and I'm going to have a ball pwnin' those pro-murder bastards, yeehaw!!
by the way, nice facts, thumb:icon_lol:

Anti-Liberal1026
05-16-2007, 12:38 AM
You should include descriptions of how some of the wonderful "procedures" are performed. Pictures are always helpful too.

the-man
05-16-2007, 01:11 AM
^^

At the last fair I went too in spokane I saw a group protesting against planned parenthood. I agree with Anit-Liberal pictures are very helpful especially when its 6 in the morning and when you're getting car sick.

Bumblebee
05-16-2007, 01:57 AM
You should include descriptions of how some of the wonderful "procedures" are performed. Pictures are always helpful too.
Here are lots of pictures and video.
http://www.mttu.com/abort-pics/index.html

Dr. Madd
05-16-2007, 08:39 AM
I find it perverse when people say Criminals should live and babies should die.
I don't use the A word often -(Abortion) I prefer to call it Infanticide. Myra, Bumbles and I ran into some Anti-life moonbats on another forum and I asked them if they could walk into one of those clinics, pull up an infant's image on Ultrasound and do what is necessary to end its life? The place went dead all at once for a couple of days.

Bumblebee
05-16-2007, 07:30 PM
I was listening to the Larry Elder Show in my car radio. He said when these two videos first appeared on the Internet, they pulled them out immediately. Elder said we could get it on his website.

Some of you might have heard this story, it's about a sophomore at UCLA that goes undercover at a Planned Parenthood clinic. She says she's fifteen and wants an abortion. Federal law requires this to be reported because of her age. An employee of the clinic encourages her to lie about her age.

Video 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x4aRw57fDc

Video 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZMHJISI5yc

Bumblebee
05-18-2007, 04:30 PM
Found this new article, it's just as bad as the pictures I put up.

In the weeks since the partial birth abortion decision, it's clear that abortion proponents are sticking to their game plan: don't say anything about the unborn child. The reason is clear: partial birth abortions are so revolting that even a clinical description causes us to shudder.

In a partial birth abortion, the unborn child is pulled feet first from the womb until only his head is left inside. The abortionist punctures the skull with scissors, inserts a tube and sucks the brains out.

Nurse Brenda Shafer's testimony of the partial birth abortion she witnessed was cited by the court. "The baby's little fingers were clasping and unclasping, and his feet were kicking. Then the doctor stuck the scissors through the back of his head, and the baby's arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall. The doctor opened up the scissors, stuck a high-powered suction tube into the opening and sucked the baby's brains out."

How can anyone defend a procedure where a doctor kills a child dangling from the womb inches from birth?
Read more: http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007705180441