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Dagummit
06-18-2006, 10:02 AM
Here is the latest from our "favorite" legal group....the ACLU...

They are "investigating" claims of discrimination that was brought to them by some blacks that work at Six Flags America (in Maryland). The claim is that Six Flags has told several blacks that their hairstyle was inappropriate and either to change it or leave.

Let's look at one of these "hairstyles" shall we?

Jonathan DeLeon, an employee, had braids that were THREE FEET LONG! Six Flags stated that was against policy, etc...his mother cut two feet of braids off, but Six Flags said a foot of braids still goes against the rules because they "wanted an all-American thing" (from DeLeon).

Look, I am about freedoms to be one's self...I have several tattoos all over me, many visible...and I'd be a little pissed to get told to leave because of them...but on the other hand Six Flags is a privately owned company...they have their policies in black and white.

Now why was this dude hired there in the first place with the long braids is a different question, but for the ACLU to target a private organization over a hairstyle is absurd....

I see Six Flags' point...what is next? Green mohawks? Where does the tastes of others get carried away? If these blacks can have three feet of cornrowed, braids, whatever...then what is to stop the freedoms of some white kid wanting that green, two foot high, spiked mohawk?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SIX_FLAGS_HAIRSTYLES?SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-06-17-12-59-25

shotdrops286
06-18-2006, 10:16 AM
yeah he should not have been hired in the first place. Unless his hair was within standards and he decided togrow it out after being hired. Privtae organizations should be able to discriminate anyone they want (im not beng sarcastic). If i run a religious shop im not going to hire the kids with piercings in ther face and anarchy tattoos on their body. People need to learn that they are not equal and not everyone is deserving of whatever job they want.

Peace_by_superior _power
06-18-2006, 02:42 PM
if you are going to work, if its mcdonalds or the ceo of a company you must look and be professional. it reflects negatilvly on the company and looks negativly upon you as a person. at the place i work for you have to wear a polo shirt and docker style pants. now that its summer we will be getting t shirts and shorts for a little comfort but the dress code is strict and we must all sign it upon getting hired, limitin mens hair to shoulder length. i dont know about six flags policy but if they have it then it applies to everyone wheter it be the blacks with braids or the whites. i dont see why the ACLU needs to get involved its not like 3 foot long braids are even cultural.

Dr. Madd
06-18-2006, 02:45 PM
What's next, Men with six foot beards being allowed to work in food service. Then the ALCU stands behind the customer suing over hairs in the food. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

FKLBRLS
06-19-2006, 12:29 AM
Whatever this guy was doing working there is beyond me. At the same time, the ACLU SHOULD NOT GET INVOLVED! If a company requires employees to look or act a certain way, they have a right to. Nobody should be forced because "Tyrone" thinks 3-foot-long dreads are "in".

bosoxx
06-20-2006, 10:34 PM
Terrorism: a strategy of using violence, social threats, or coordinated attacks, in order to generate fear, cause disruption, and ultimately, bring about compliance with specified political, religious, or ideological demands.

The way I see it, the ACLU qualifies as a terrorist organization...being that they use social threats and frivolous law suits to ultimately force compliance with specific political and liberal ideological demands on the majority population. The ACLU is flawed and here is why: they donate money and provide legal represtnation to pedophile murderers and child rapists...yet are mum on the topic of the second amendment.

FKLBRLS
06-20-2006, 11:30 PM
Has anyone here ever read the book The ACLU vs. America? It is basically about how the ACLU really has an agenda and the specific examples of it.

Dr. Madd
06-21-2006, 12:06 AM
I wonder how much they'd squeal if someone rounded them all up, and publicly decapitated them?

Real_Texan_08
06-28-2006, 02:01 AM
Anybody wanna set that up?

Oi_Ve
06-28-2006, 11:32 AM
I'm not familiar with what the Six Flag's employees do, but one would think that three foot long braids could be considered a safety hazard.

Jimbo
06-28-2006, 02:32 PM
Ok, let's compare this to the purity ring debate we had a few days ago. Let's say he was growing his hair out on religious grounds because, I dunno, he wanted to look like Jesus. Despite the hand book clearly stating otherwise? Same level of outrage?

Yes, actually it would be. Six Flags is privately owned, and they have the right to dictate however they want their employees to dress and act.

The Hawk
06-29-2006, 02:28 AM
I hate the ACLU as much as the next conservative, but I actually agree with them on this one. However, if there are specific guidelines concerning hairstyles upon hiring employees, then Six Flags is in the right.

Madcowhunter
06-29-2006, 02:16 PM
I hate the ACLU as much as the next conservative, but I actually agree with them on this one. However, if there are specific guidelines concerning hairstyles upon hiring employees, then Six Flags is in the right.
It wouldn't matter even if there wasn't a specific dress code concerning hair. The Six Flags is privately owned and can fire whoever they want for whatever the reason. The ACLU has no right to sue over it.

The Hawk
06-30-2006, 03:54 AM
It wouldn't matter even if there wasn't a specific dress code concerning hair. The ACLU is privately owned and can fire whoever they want for whatever the reason. The ACLU has no right to sue over it.

With that information intact, the ACLU has no right in getting involved. But still, Six Flags decision to fire him is still questionable.

Dr. Madd
06-30-2006, 06:54 AM
Ok, let's compare this to the purity ring debate we had a few days ago. Let's say he was growing his hair out on religious grounds because, I dunno, he wanted to look like Jesus. Despite the hand book clearly stating otherwise? Same level of outrage?

*looks through middle Eastern history* Nope, Jesus was definitely NOT a rasta.

WhiteAfricanAmerican
06-30-2006, 07:42 AM
Then the ALCU stands behind the customer suing over hairs in the food. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

What you guys aren't realising, is that the ACLU here is making money on the front end (Sueing Six flags on behalf of the employee) and the back end (Sueing Six flags on behalf of the consumer who has hair in their food.).

The worst thing is that you and I subsidize any legal action the ACLU takes.

I'm not sure where it says this but I believe that any legal action taken by a law entity that revolves around violation of contitutional rights, allows that law entity to recieve state/fed money for the prosecution of that case.

Someone needs to shut that loophole.

Dr. Madd
06-30-2006, 08:42 AM
Someone needs to neuter the ACLU.

Dagummit
06-30-2006, 10:48 AM
I'm not sure where it says this but I believe that any legal action taken by a law entity that revolves around violation of contitutional rights, allows that law entity to recieve state/fed money for the prosecution of that case.
I have heard of this as well...but have no freaking clue where.


Someone needs to shut that loophole.Agreed!

Dr. Madd
07-01-2006, 07:53 AM
And schools don't have the same right?

Did you trade in all your common sense when you became a liberal? Must be a prerequisite or something. Anyway, The Purity ring is not going to be hung in the chains of a Roller Coaster and rip your arm off. It doesn't make you look like a dumpster diving, filthy bum. However, the dreads do. What's more,
religious or not, they are in the way. The Rings are not. :mad:

Oi_Ve
07-01-2006, 10:37 AM
Did you trade in all your common sense when you became a liberal? Must be a prerequisite or something. Anyway, The Purity ring is not going to be hung in the chains of a Roller Coaster and rip your arm off. It doesn't make you look like a dumpster diving, filthy bum. However, the dreads do. What's more,
religious or not, they are in the way. The Rings are not. :mad:

Doesn't matter. The school in question was a private institute in the UK, just like Six Flags is a private establishment. It recieves no government funding, but instead is the property of another person who ALLOWS them to be there and therefore they have EVERY right to infringe on your right of free speech, religion, etc.
Only Congress and the states (according to the 14th Amendment) cannot pass laws (not rules, laws) which infringe on those rights.

Dr. Madd
07-01-2006, 11:23 AM
But right is right, regardless of the location.

Myra Madd
07-01-2006, 12:06 PM
and I stand behind what I said about the purity rings. if you don't like a service from ANY business...privately owned or governmentally owned...take your business elsewhere...the kid with the dreadlocks has another option...it's called put up or shut up...either put up with the crap they dish out or (here's a radical solution) find another job!!!

Dr. Madd
07-01-2006, 12:15 PM
*gives Myra a teddy bear* And we have a winnah!

Jimbo
07-01-2006, 06:24 PM
Myra's Teddy Bears' head stayed in Master Chiefs Crosshairs a little to long.

Master Chief is DOMINATING.

Dr. Madd
07-01-2006, 06:54 PM
*Dr. Madd gets really cross and trains his Dr. Madd Special Shatnertron ray on Master Chief* This is the Shatnertron. *Puts a william shatner CD into the machine* It amplifies and intensifies the music on this William Shatner Disc into a single beam of Musical Destruction.