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Devil_rules_in_extremes
03-27-2006, 02:34 AM
Wave after wave of immigration protests erupted across the nation this weekend.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/26/D8GJAGB80.html


Thousands of immigration advocates marched through downtown Los Angeles in one of the largest demonstrations for any cause in recent U.S. history.

More than 500,000 protesters _ demanding that Congress abandon attempts to make illegal immigration a felony and to build more walls along the border _ surprised police who estimated the crowd size using aerial photographs and other techniques, police Cmdr. Louis Gray Jr. said.

The biggest demonstration in LA history. Are we being over run? I would have to say YES!!!!

Not only were there illegal immigrant marches in LA, but all across the homeland. The artcle goes on to say:


In Denver, more than 50,000 people protested downtown Saturday, according to police who had expected only a few thousand. Phoenix was similarly surprised Friday when an estimated 20,000 people gathered for one of the biggest demonstrations in city history, and more than 10,000 marched in Milwaukee on Thursday.

I also heard reports of Chicago experiencing numbers in the 100,000+ marching in support of illegal immigrants.

I think we have a very big problem on our hands here.

So what happens now? These marches demonstrate what kind of power and force of illegal immigration exhists in this country. These demonstrations are bigger than the Vietnam marches! Bigger than Rodney King!! Nothing of this magnitude has been seen. And its over the issue of immigration.

How is this problem going to be solved?

I don't see this issue going away any time soon.

The anti liberal
03-27-2006, 02:39 AM
I can't believe these people even think they have a right to protest when they are ILLEGAL and BREAKING THE LAW!!

WhiteAfricanAmerican
03-27-2006, 05:46 AM
At the risk of sounding like a wet towel at the party, I don't see anything about the protestors being illegals. The quotes referred to immigration advocates.

Dagummit
03-27-2006, 09:11 AM
Immigrants are one thing, maybe a little help to get em started couldn't hurt....

Why even that? Did this country or society help your previous generations when they were immigrants? What did this country do for the Irish, the Italians, the African's (forced slaved and non-slaved), the Spanish, the Germans?, the Orientals, the whoever else?

Why should the freaking Mexican's, Cubans, P. Ricans, South Americans, etc get a dagummed thing?

But anyways....this immigration shit (legal and illegal) has gotten out of hand. We need to close the borders down for a spell...not allowing ANY more immigrants until this shit can get straightened out. There are statistics show that in 50 years, the majority of this countries population will be Hispanic....well FCUK THAT!

What ever happened to the good ol days of the 40's and 50's? Sure there was a lot of screwed up stuff...but this country was in A LOT better shape than it is now. I personally think the offspring of the baby boomer generation is the primary fault of all the bad shit that is happening in this country...and the 60's started the downward spiral of the destruction of our gov't!

HillBilly
03-27-2006, 09:33 AM
F*ck 'em. Let them stay in their own goddamned countries where they belong. WE ARE OVER POPULATED AND IN DEBT. We cannot HANDLE much more of this.

They are taking our JOBS and our MONEY. They are a CANCER on our society.

Lock the borders down and shoot anyone that tries to get in.

Topiary Lady
03-27-2006, 10:05 AM
I'd protest too if I were in danger of loosing my "special status" that I get for illegally breaking into the USA, I guess. I'd fight too to keep my free housing, food and healthcare, I guess. I'd march in the streets too and demand that my children be educated (in spanish because I don't feel like learning english) free of charge, I guess. I too would wave signs (in spanish) and hold up my Mexican flag and demand that everyone understand what I am saying, I guess. I'd have the arrogance to demand that I pay a greatly discounted tuition to attend college simply because I am here illegally, I guess. Why would I want to give up all of these wonderful things I'm being given for my "special status" of being here ILLEGALLY? Why would I want to shell out of any of my hard earned money to support myself like the American citizens do? Why, I could go into any hospital and have my baby (which will automatically be an American citizen) free of charge! Why would I want anything to change? Oh, except for one thing maybe...heh heh....liberals like Hillary Clinton are going to add one more little bonus to my illegal "special status" benefits because I want to be able to vote. Spanish ballot and illegal alien poll workers to assist please.

We can't criminalize CRIMINALS! Why that would be equal to criminalizing Jesus, I guess. At least that's what criminal licking liberals like Hillary tell me.

*T.L. pounds fist on desk and makes obscene gesture towards illegal protesers and the liberals who court them*:mad:

Devil_rules_in_extremes
03-27-2006, 12:20 PM
At the risk of sounding like a wet towel at the party, I don't see anything about the protestors being illegals. The quotes referred to immigration advocates.

It was a country I saw marching down Spring Street WhiteAfricanAmerican.

It was Mexico I saw marching in protest in LA. It wasn't illegal immigrant advocates or "criminal rights advocates" as Sinn Fein called them, it was a freakin FOREIGN COUNTRY!!!!!! IT WAS MEXICO MARCHING!!!!!!!!!

500,000 marched in LA. That is a HUGE problem. You bet they where illegals. LA has been completely overrun.

I don't think any of you really understand the ramifications now. If we try to build a wall, they will riot. We try to send illegals home, they will riot, the Congress passes this bill the illegals will riot... Just like in France....

I think we are in a bigger pickel then a lot of you realize.

Dagummit
03-27-2006, 01:00 PM
I don't think any of you really understand the ramifications now. If we try to build a wall, they will riot. We try to send illegals home, they will riot, the Congress passes this bill the illegals will riot... Just like in France....

Yeah, I know EXACTLY what you mean....and our politicians have allowed it to happen!

If we aim to close the borders (by fence or whatever), we MUST call up the military to do it. We MUST give the go ahead to use whatever force that is needed to send these peach picking bastards back!

Those photos are UN-FREAKING-REAL! The sheer amount of people there is just RIDICULOUS! You are right on it DRIE about this looking like France's situation here real soon.

But if we sit here like pansies and do nothing, then in about 30 to 50 years, this will be the United States of Mexico....

either way, drastic measures must be taken!

Oi_Ve
03-27-2006, 01:20 PM
If 500,000 white people marched, it would be "America" protesting.

If 500,000 brown people march, its "Mexico" protesting.

I suppose someone here has PROOF that these protests contain illegals to any significant degree? Cause I'd liek to see that before thread topics read "500,000 illegals"

:rolleyes:

Devil_rules_in_extremes
03-27-2006, 01:27 PM
If 500,000 white people marched, it would be "America" protesting.

If 500,000 brown people march, its "Mexico" protesting.

:rolleyes:

Thats exactly what I saw OI VE... In the news, all the pictures... I didn't see America there at all...

I saw Mexico. I saw an entire country invade an American city without one shot fired OI VE...

Its exactly what I saw. We have been completely taken over.

I didn't see 500,000 white people march IN SUPPORT of illegals.

Dagummit
03-27-2006, 02:00 PM
I saw whites/browns/blacks/yellows/reds all marching in Los Angeles and Chicago

I have never seen a yellow or red person. I bet that is some site to see!

HillBilly
03-27-2006, 02:01 PM
I saw a bunch of people hell bent on destroying this country marching.

I also think Devil_rules has been using windex on his/her crystal ball, and has a pretty damned good picture of what's going on... Pay attention to that boy/girl, because he/she has a better grasp of what's happening than most people I know. Not bad for a 19 year old. Not too bad at all..

(Devil: Sorry for the he/she stuff, but I don't know your gender, and I don't want to make assumptions)

Dagummit
03-27-2006, 02:05 PM
If 500,000 white people marched, it would be "America" protesting.

If 500,000 brown people march, its "Mexico" protesting.

I suppose someone here has PROOF that these protests contain illegals to any significant degree? Cause I'd liek to see that before thread topics read "500,000 illegals"

:rolleyes:

OV, I think the point to this is that the 500k people ARE protesting for the complete legalization of every illegal alien. That is UN-American, so therefore place the name of whatever country the predominate peoples come from in the blank...which is Mexico.

But, DRIE is absolutely correct...and most of us don't even see it happening...we are being taken over. Just like the arab-muslims did (and are doing) in France. France completely ignored what was happening and now they are paying the piper.

But something the US citizens have that France doesn't have (besides balls) is the right to own firearms....let these little bean pickers start shit in my 'hood yo...it'll be on like donkey kong! :icon_mrgr

Devil_rules_in_extremes
03-27-2006, 02:15 PM
(Devil: Sorry for the he/she stuff, but I don't know your gender, and I don't want to make assumptions)

Its cool. Im a guy just to clear it all up. And Thanks for the kind words too HillBilly. I appreciate it.

When it comes to the issues that effect Americans, I call it like I see it and let the sticks fall where they may. I don't bullshit around the bush or try to pander.

The less Politically correct we are as a society and actually call things like they really are, the better off we will be. Lets start calling a spade a spade.

I saw Mexico marching in LA over the weekend.

"SI SE PUEDE!!!"------------------Remember?

shotdrops286
03-27-2006, 02:18 PM
Id much rather have illegal aliens in this country who want to WORK as opposed to all the lazy americans on welfare who are able to work but just like their free money and would rather be lazy

Topiary Lady
03-27-2006, 02:32 PM
And now the marchers in Phoenix want an apology from the mayor.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0327airportcleanup.html

See how this works? It's all about manipulation. We're supposed to feel guilty when we don't just bow down and take this crap. Very similar to the big muslim suck-up eh? Gimme gimme gimme and don't you dare criticize the bad behavior.

This has to stop.

Dagummit
03-27-2006, 02:54 PM
Id much rather have illegal aliens in this country who want to WORK as opposed to all the lazy americans on welfare who are able to work but just like their free money and would rather be lazy
Two wrongs don't make a right dude. Both are way over due to be resurfaced and re-engineered. There shouldn't be illegals here AND welfare should be completely eliminated.

shotdrops286
03-27-2006, 02:59 PM
whether or not illegals SHOULD be here does not matter. They are here and since they are in this country they are protected by our constitution and bill of rights. How to remedy the situation is the problem. I would much more inclined to help the working illegals then the lazy welfare recpients

Dagummit
03-27-2006, 03:16 PM
whether or not illegals SHOULD be here does not matter. They are here and since they are in this country they are protected by our constitution and bill of rights.

No they are not! Where the hell did you get that info from? That is right out of the lib handbook dude....

shotdrops286
03-27-2006, 03:29 PM
No they are not! Where the hell did you get that info from? That is right out of the lib handbook dude....

In some instances yes they do... I did not say i agree with it...If an illegal immigrants is charged with a crime he has a right to a fair trial etc. It does not protect them from being deported but they do get some benefits from it

Oi_Ve
03-27-2006, 04:19 PM
OV, I think the point to this is that the 500k people ARE protesting for the complete legalization of every illegal alien. That is UN-American, so therefore place the name of whatever country the predominate peoples come from in the blank...which is Mexico.

But, DRIE is absolutely correct...and most of us don't even see it happening...we are being taken over. Just like the arab-muslims did (and are doing) in France. France completely ignored what was happening and now they are paying the piper.

But something the US citizens have that France doesn't have (besides balls) is the right to own firearms....let these little bean pickers start shit in my 'hood yo...it'll be on like donkey kong! :icon_mrgr

The article said they were "demanding that Congress abandon attempts to make illegal immigration a felony and to build more walls along the border", NOT that they were for the legalization of every illegal alien.

It is absolutely ridiculous to point to these protests as evidence that we are being "invaded" by illegal Mexicans. This is not to say we aren't, but to use this as proof is ridiculous.

Why?

1. You have no demographics. You only have a handful of pictures (from a media which you people claim are biased) and are basing THE ENTIRE PROTEST DEMOGRAPHIC on, what, half a dozen pictures?

2. Even IF the entire protest consisted of Hispanics, you have NO PROOF that ANY of these people are illegal aliens. This country takes in more legal Hispanic immigrants every year than any other minority, hence it is just as likely that they are all LEGAL immigrants.
And, whether you like it or not, they are just as much "American" as any white person.

Therefore, these protests are just as likely being held by Americans as Mexicans and no more proof that we are being invaded by illegal mexicans than if 500,000 blondes protesting is evidence that we are being invaded by illegal Germans.
Why do you assume off hand that the 500,000 are all, a majority, or even significantly consisted of illegals?

If they are, I'll give you a hint as to how to find them: their the ones who aren't yelling in english. Instead they obviously know enough about American race relations to know old timey slogans and can obviously afford to miss work, suggesting to me that they are modestly well off...evidence seems to suggest that they're mostly legal.

Does this mean that illegal immigration is not a problem? No.
Does it mean that we aren't getting droves of aliens in from Mexico? No.

All I'm saying is that using these protests as evidence makes no sense, and, in a way, paints you as stereotypical and racist, as you immediately assume that all hispanics are illegal, and if you presented this as evidence to your liberal friends, you wouldn't be making your case.

Also, the law might not being garnering AS MUCH attention if people would learn from history and abandon this archaic and quite frankly idiotic idea of walls along your border.

Walls have NEVER worked, people! Either they're circumnavigated (Israel, China, Britain), or just blatantly broken through (Troy, Constantinople, China)

But I'm looking at this as half full, cause I'm amazed at is the fact that SOMETHING had the power to stir 500,000 people to protest simultaneously.
At least they're following politics and have enough emotion in it to act...meanwhile, if I'm not mistaken, aren't we all just sitting at our computers typing?

If you don't like the protests, fine.

GET OFF YOUR DEAD BEAT ASSES AND COUNTER PROTEST INSTEAD OF SITTING AROUND BITCHING ABOUT IT!

That is all. :icon_mrgr

Bumblebee
03-27-2006, 04:35 PM
I think we are in a bigger pickel then a lot of you realize.
I once tried to tell everyone on this site, how wherever I go around here, I feel like I'm in Mexico. They don't know our language and speak to each other in their language.

Along time ago, I read that Americans should learn Spanish, because in ten years we won't be able to communicate with all the Latinos living among us and with more coming in. It seemed strange to me at the time, I thought that it was in reverse. As a matter of fact, that article or magazine said, that learing Spanish will be a must if you want to get a good job.

So many knew that we were going to have a problem, and nobody did anything about it. Learn English, it's good for us, we'll know another language, it said in the article.

Many things, including directions on grocery items, have directions for both, English and Spanish. We've made it so easy for them, why should they learn English?

There was a time when most all immigrants learned English in night school.

One of the things that got to me about this march, was that they were waving Mexican flags. They want to immigrate here, then all should be waving American flags and learn English.

I don't think this is fair for the many who are waiting in line to immigrate to America legally.

Devil_rules_in_extremes
03-27-2006, 04:39 PM
GET OFF YOUR DEAD BEAT ASSES AND COUNTER PROTEST INSTEAD OF SITTING AROUND BITCHING ABOUT IT!

That is all. :icon_mrgr

I have contacted my two Senators and Representative... Does That count OI VE?

Topiary Lady
03-27-2006, 04:47 PM
Well Bee, I'd say that if you were to try and drive the 110 freeway right now you'd definitly feel like you are in Mexico. Seems the law breakers have successfully shut down the freeway by an illegal romp on it here at just a tad before 2:00pm. Won't this be a fun monday afternoon commute in L.A.?

This is ridiculous.

Dagummit
03-27-2006, 06:31 PM
I have contacted my two Senators and Representative... Does That count OI VE?
My Senators and Representatives know me by name by now!...lol

OV...just for you...I am going to go to down town Culpeper, where there are about 100 illegals lined up every morning and carry a protest sign expressing opposition against illegal aliens and the American's hiring them.

In case any of these bastards get an inkling of a notion to do something stupid to me, I hope they'll first see that I will be OPEN CARRYING two .40 SA semi-autos in shoulder holsters. I have no problem empting 22 rounds into a mob that is about to lynch me.

Also, I am sure that I can get a couple of "good ol boys" around here to join me.