Do you agree with President on the Dubai Port Security issue?

[BushRocks]

People are too occupied on being PC.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

No, you have your head in the sand because all you do is compare a company to the country it's in. Maybe we should judge Americans by Enron, Tyco, or Martel. How about the mafia, maybe malitias would better suit your needs.

Oh, bullshit, I gave plenty of circumstantial evidence. Where there is smoke, there is fire.



Can you spell D*E*S*P*E*R*A*T*E. You are grasping at straws. The hilarity continues......

What, is that all that you can come up with?

So, tell me, are you denying the validity of circumstantial evidence? Tell me you are.....please tell me you are.


WAA, you crack me up! I am creating hypocracy? How about you and the other twenty twits that are crying and whining about security issues, but yet you can't give me one simply example of terrorism or ties to terrorism by this company. That is called hypocracy.

So, tell me SF, what exactly would statisfy your cry for proof? Hmmm


In case you hadn't realised it, the nature of terrorists, chucklehead, is to remain HIDDEN until it's too late.
Terrorists do not run around and advertise who and where they are, it's counter productive you see. So while you try out your liberal side I'll just dismiss you like I do all libs.



It is racist and against everything America stands for
I would wager that I know more about what America stands for than you do, so spare me the sanctimonious bullshit. Being concerned about the welfare of the Citizens of this country supercedes anything else.


so please tell me since DP World has been in the states for forty years, how many counts of terrorism has there been through this company and how long have you been bothered that DP World was the major port runner in the States?

Before I do, tell me, prior to 9/11 how many times had airliners been used as smart bombs? Nothing like that had happened before, so I guess by your logic, airport security had every right to be complaicent? Right?

Is it racist to pay more attention to every person from ME decent who wants to board a plane.

You have NOTHING SF, abso-freakin-lutely NOTHING.

Your problem is that you're so far up Bush's ass, that he brushes your hair in the morning when he brushes his teeth. The man can do nothing wrong in your eyes which in and of itself is stupid.

You have no arguement you know that, you keep going around in circles. Concede the point and move on already.

[Oi_Ve]

You guys can scream all you want about the ports and security and intel, but the fact remains that, as Sinn Fein said, no one wants to handle the ports.

So what are we going to do?

Have them just sit there?

Maybe we should put them in the hands of Uncle Sam...although the closest thing the Constitution says about the government running ports is regulation of trade with foreign nations, but running a port and regulating trade are two different things...and there's always the wee problem of ineffeicency.

I hear the mob is looking for some new way to cash in...let's get them to run it again!

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

So, tell me SF, what exactly would statisfy your cry for proof?[

Hmmmm


WAA, please all I ask is where is there proof DP World is tied to terrorism? That is all I ask. Why do you dodge the question. It's OK that you can't find one, like everyone else you just prove you know shit about this deal and read and base everything off of media accounts.

Hmmmf and you tell me that I dodge the questions?
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Answer the question SF, what 'proof' would satisfy you? I think this is the 3rd time I've asked this.


You know nothing about America and frankly should go back to Africa.

OOooooooooo now that's original. You come up with that one all by yourself, or did your mommy help you.



Like you say "Where there is smoke, there is fire" and if you stand by this, you are associated with Mugabe, so you should head exit right and go back Africa.

More stupidity. I'm part of an ethnic body that Mugabe has been murdering and driving out of the country. So how can I be associated with him?

Now, if the US wanted to give a Zambian company owned and operated by Zambia the contract to run the ports I'd be taking the same position. Given the fact that Zambia and Zimbabwe are neighbors and share commonalities
I at least am consistent, which makes me unique in this conversation.

Good job of shoving your foot in your mouth.


Pre-9/11 no airplanes/boats/rail where hijacked in any ports owned or rented by DP World.So another point is shot down.

Actually it demonstrates my point, a point that you're obviously too dense to see. The point is SF, (and I think I explained the point which just increases your denseness) you contend that because nothing has happened in the past, then therefore it must be safe and secure. My presenting airplanes being used as smart bombs was evidence that something that hasn't occured cannot be used as an excuse anymore, that it's safe. Air travel has never been the same nor will it ever be the same again. Thus, only a niave fool can guarantee a deal like this, with a large amount of circumstantial issues to be safe.



I do not like Bush that much, to liberal for my liking.
What ever you say.


I have never met anyone as idiotic as you. All I ask is one shred of evidence to to show me the DP World is connected to terrorism and you have not.


So, tell me SF, what exactly would statisfy your cry for proof?[

First tell me the kind of evidence you would be satisfied with. Let's all see what you'd be satisfied with. My money says nothing less than a sworn statement by the UAE that they are plotting to attack the US would satisfy you.


All you do is babble nonlogic crap that seems to suit your needs. All I ask is one simple proof DP World is tried to terrorism.


BWAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA



You guys can scream all you want about the ports and security and intel, but the fact remains that, as Sinn Fein said, no one wants to handle the ports.

So what are we going to do?

Have them just sit there?

I don't buy the idea that NO US company want's to run them. I'd be willing to bet that some smaller companies that are capable of running them, either don't have the strings to pull where they need to pull them, or don't have the 'grease' to oil the wheel.

In a country so full of entrepreneurs, I don't buy that for one second.

[Bumblebee]

On the Beltway Boys, they mentioned of one company that did make a bid for the ports. They came up with a little less then Dubai paid. They also mentioned several other companies.

[Wadi66]

The ploy that there are no American companies with the ability to run the ports falls on deaf ears. Everything goes to the highest bidder. That's BS.

[alwaysRight]

Lobby Groups Watching Effects of Port Deal:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060315/D8GC4FE00.html


Widespread public anger over the Bush administration's approval of a deal to let a Dubai-owned company take over significant operations at six major U.S. ports caught many in Washington by surprise. Congress signaled it would act to block it, and the company, DP World, said late last week it would give up its U.S. operations.

The outcry followed protests last year in Congress and the public over an attempt by China's CNOOC Ltd. (CEO) to buy Unocal, the second-largest U.S. oil company.

The combination of the two events is giving momentum to lawmakers who want tougher rules for foreign investment in the United States. The proposals include congressional review of foreign investment and forcing overseas companies to divest their financial stakes in anything deemed to be part of America's national security infrastructure.

Lets hope this builds steam and Congress gets foreign investment out of American infrastructure. At least out of the infrastructure with National Security implications.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

Amen to that.

[Jimbo]

Hmmmm




OOooooooooo now that's original. You come up with that one all by yourself, or did your mommy help you.





Screw you man, My mom makes up most of my good retorts. Don't hate just because you have originality!:icon_lol:

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

See, now someone that can laugh at himself, I have all the time in the world for.

Good on ya Jimbo.

[Dagummit]

I forgot how I voted in this poll, but what I know now in my downward spiral perception of Bush's "strategy" is that this should be an American company running this shit. Yes DP has ran shit in the past, but wasn't that also under British control? Now it is under UAE control? I don't know, just asking...

Bottom line is that no middle eastern country, save Israel, should be doing shit in this country. I just don't trust them. Anyone ever heard of a trojan horse? Butter 'em up and get inside, then use the device that was allowed to get inside as a tool against them.

Oh and the thing about no one US based company wanting the job, that is bullshit...put the proper amount of money out there, and US companies will come to it.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

You're right on with that Dag. Although I'm not happy with even Israel running shit in this country, or the Brits for that matter. It's easier to digest, but I'm not happy with it.

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

Asking price is 7 billion dollars

I heard 700 million. SO which orifice on your body did you pull that figure out of SINN FEIN????

[alwaysRight]

I heard 700 million. SO which orifice on your body did you pull that figure out of SINN FEIN????


No company in America can pull 700 billion out and buy the ports

I think DRIE said 700 million, not 700 billion.

[Dagummit]

I heard 700 million. SO which orifice on your body did you pull that figure out of SINN FEIN????
I was just taking a gulp of Mickey's when I read your response...

well...thanks DRIE!!! ...now I have to wipe sprayed beer off of my laptop screen...LOL...:icon_mrgr

[Wadi66]

Ever wonder where these foreign companies get that kind of money? Investors I'm sure, but where do the investors hail from and where do they get their money?

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

OK SINN FEIN... HERE YOU GO.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/13/D8GB0HJGC.html


The e-mail, obtained by The Associated Press, added to questions raised since DP World's announcement last week that it will divest U.S. port operations it acquired when it bought London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co.

DP World has said those operations are worth roughly $700 million.

There you go quoting MIS-information again.

Come on now SINN FEIN...

Hey and didn't your SINN FEIN "ULTRA CONSERVATIVE" Party leader get arrested or is on some NO-FLY list or something????

anywayz...


Ever wonder where these foreign companies get that kind of money? Investors I'm sure, but where do the investors hail from and where do they get their money?
Probably the American tax-payer... I mean how can you account for 9 TRILLION dollars? I mean a story just came out that we can't even control the money going to hurricane Katrina relief... Let alone THE WHOLE FREAKIN 9 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT-BUDGET!!!

SOME crooked communist within the beaurocracy is syphoning money to these "Business Firms" and etc...

[Wadi66]

Well DRIE I was actually wondering who is investing in the foreign companies. We already know that the wealthy in Iran are moving their money to UAE, who else logdes it there? Bin Laden ran his money through UAE. Is it a case of our enemies putting their money into the hands of those who would then have the money to buy control of businesses that operate in America?

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

Well DRIE I was actually wondering who is investing in the foreign companies. We already know that the wealthy in Iran are moving their money to UAE, who else logdes it there? Bin Laden ran his money through UAE. Is it a case of our enemies putting their money into the hands of those who would then have the money to buy control of businesses that operate in America?

WOW. Why didn't you mention that earlier WADI???? NOW THAT IS AN ASTUTE OBSERVATION....

I never thought about that... Even MORE reason to reject this DUBAI PORT DEAL...

[BushRocks]

All I know and hope is, that the U.S. doesn't become a protectionist nation...

[Wadi66]

BR, every security measure is an act of protectionism. Our borders, airport security, etc etc. This is just one more. Being a protectionist nation is not necessarily a bad thing. There is a difference between protectionism and isolationism.

[BushRocks]

Protectionism is the economic policy of restraining trade between jurisdictions, through methods such as high tariffs on imported goods, restrictive quotas, and anti-dumping measures, in an attempt to protect producers in a particular locale from competition. This contrasts with free trade, where no artificial barriers to entry are instituted to prevent competition.

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

Thats exactly what we should do... CONGRESS NEEDS TO RAISE TARIFFS!!! AND LOWER MY TAXES!!!

Thats exactly what needs to happen... Not this willy nilly so called "Free Trade" that we are supposed to have.

RAISE TARIFFS and get rid of the INCOME TAX!!!! That will do WONDERS for this economy...

And maybe American companies won't have such a hard time struggling for American's consumer business.

[BushRocks]

Raise tariffs?

hahaha, yeah that will do wonders, OiVe help me out here. I can't do this one alone.

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

Raise tariffs?

YES... RAISE TARIFFS... Then get rid of INCOME TAX. If you raise tariffs and get rid of the income tax. It will balance out and our government would be raising revenue the Constitutional way.

Income tax is un-Constitutional.

Tariffs are not. Tariffs are the proper way for this government to raise revenue. You raise tariffs on the foreign goods that come into this country, THEN AMERICAN COMPANIES CAN COMPETE FOR AMERICAN CONSUMER BUSINESS.

When you got Chin Lee over in China paying his factory workers $1.50 an hour, he can sell his goods cheaper in America. In America we have a different standard of wage. So American goods are going to naturally be higher in price. So in order for American companies to compete with this Wal-Mart China trash, Government needs to raise Tariffs. American Companies will be able to compete, thus benefiting AMERICANS here at home by providing jobs here. And Keeping the consumer money HERE in America. Not shipping American dollars over to China where they produce Nuclear Bombs with that money and point them at America.

Whats so hard to understand about that BushROCKS?

Are you not for American companies? Ohhhh thats right, you don't care that America is being CO-Opted. Screw Americans lets make FOREIGNERS RICH RIGHT? Lets give them our Ports, Airports, lets buy their cheap trash, and buy their OIL and Cars too.

All the while American companies go down the shitter. GM, FORD, DELTA, American Airlines, ADELPHI, Numerous Steel and Textile companies.

Thanks CAFTA, Thanks NAFTA, THANKS FTAA and all the other 4 letter, so called "trade agreements" etc...