More Guns - Less Crime

[IHL]

This is an excerpt from America's 1st Freedom, an NRA magazine...


It's getting to be old news, but it is good news nevertheless. In the United States, violent crime is going down, while gun ownership and the exercise of the right to bear arms is on the rise.

In October, the FBI released its annual crime report, which, when compared to data for previous years, shows that in 2004 the nation's violent crime rate decreased for the 13th consecutive year to a 30-year low. The data, based upon crimes reported to the police, correlated with Bureau of Justice Statistics crime victim surveys, which show that in 2004 violent crime fell to a 32-year low.

The FBI's data further shows that in 2004 the nation's murder, robbery and aggravated-assault rates decreased to a 39-year and 20-year lows, respectively. Violent crime has been decreasing since 1991, and since then the rates of total violent crime and its components (murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault) have decreased 39 percent, 44 percent, 24 percent, 50 percent and 33 percent, respectively.

Crime has gone down while numbers of guns and gun owners have risen to all-time highs. The BATFE estimates that the number of privately owned guns in our country increases by about 4 million a year. Concurrently, the U.S. population rises about one percent annually, and gun ownership among the population is steady.

I wonder if the Brady Campaign Against Gun Ownership people will put this data on their web site? I wonder if the anti-gun crowd will cite any of this data in their next march against guns. I wonder if the media will run a report on this and prove to the American people that guns are not the problem. Well, wonder no more - it won't happen. The evidence that gun ownership and the resulting decrease in crime in indisputible and overwhelming.

If the liberals and other gun control advocates where really so concerned with stopping crime, they would look at these figures and consider them in their decisions. They won't. They are hypocrites and liars. They hate guns. They hate gun owners but they realize that to openly admit their feelings would be political suicide. So instead they hide behind false data, false promises and scare tactics to try to convince the naive and simple that guns are the problem at the expensive of depriving law abiding citizens of their constitutional rights. It almost makes a person wish the time would come for them when they would need a gun to defend their family and didn't have it because of their own moronic laws.

[HOKIEHUNTER]

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

Sigmund Freud

[Dagummit]

Sigmund Freud was a coke addict and wanted to have sex with his mother.

But on a positive note...I say the more guns the merrier and these type of stats don't lie. I wouldn't plan on the Brady campaign to post this type of stuff.

On another note, if a kid shots themself or another kid with "daddy's" gun, it will be all over the news, but how about those kids who don't use "daddy's" gun? The news only reports the bad stuff. Why don't we see how many crimes that are stopped by citizens with guns or the number of homes with guns that children who have never shot anyone?

[HOKIEHUNTER]

yeah im not a frued fan either, but the libs love him

[Goose]

They hate gun owners but they realize that to openly admit their feelings would be political suicide. Many don't hide their hatred for gun owners at all.

I also think it's funny that many liberals hate gun owners, but they rally around a criminal that used a gun to kill people.

[PolyPartisan]

^^

Didn't Rosie O'Donnell say after Columbine that all gun-owners should be put in prison?

[Goose]

Didn't Rosie O'Donnell say after Columbine that all gun-owners should be put in prison? Except for her armed security guards I'm sure.

[Raver]

On the gun-crime rate issue, has anyone been paying attention to Canadia (as my friends and I jokingly call it)? They blame their latest surge of crime on the US because the firearms are supposedly illegally imported from here. Also, they blame out culture and think that we wrong in our gun policy because it isn't strict enough.

I find this ironic, because Switzerland's gun policy is more lax than ours (or less, depending on how you phrase it) and yet it has the lowest crime rate. Why? Because each 21+ year old male is issued an automatic and trained how to use it. If I were a criminal, I'd sure as heck not try and steal from a guy who is packing more heat than I am. Also, more than half of Switzerland's crime is performed by tourists. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, eh?

[Dagummit]

On the gun-crime rate issue, has anyone been paying attention to Canadia (as my friends and I jokingly call it)? They blame their latest surge of crime on the US because the firearms are supposedly illegally imported from here. Also, they blame out culture and think that we wrong in our gun policy because it isn't strict enough.

I heard this on O'Reilly the other night. Some moron from Canada was on saying that Canada would be a much better place if the US didn't allow guns the way we do.

May I also remind the Canadians that they can't even keep a stable gov't long enough to make any sensible laws...they are just like France...they go through gov'ts and Constitutions like four time a century...

[FKLBRLS]

I saw that on O'Reilly as well. The main issue was that guns were being exported to Canada from the US. Alright, so maybe if the LEGALIZED guns there wouldn't be that problem. But see, banning guns gives the Canucks a sweet spot because when Canadians who care about their safety get guns from the US, the Canucks have another opporunity to bitch about America. And now the Canucks are saying that America has a "terribly violent culture" and "is exporting it to Canada."

"Here in Canada we hear all the time about how terrible acts of gun violence go on in your country."-Canadian douchebag.

OK, but let's look at this here. America has 280 MILLION people. Each year, about 10 of them run around and shoot a few people, each one kills 2-4 and injures 4-7. Terrible acts of rampant gun violence? I don't think so.

Canucks (I use that phrase because it used to be a derogatory term to Canadians) have to stop blaming everything on inanimate objects and Americans. Did any of them realize that IT TAKES A PERSON TO SHOOT A GUN? A gun is no less dangerous than a piece of paper if it is just sitting on a table. But, in the wrong hands, both the gun and the piece of paper can be used to kill someone. Time and again the reporter on FOX kept telling this Canadian, "Look, you guys need to get to the source of the problem. Canada has a gang problem, you need to go after the gangs."

And has anyone here realized, whenever gun-control fanatics cite school shootings or daycare shootings, they always happen in areas designated as NO GUNS ALLOWED? There is a HUGE GYNORMOUS FLAW in the gun-control theory-all the shootings they cite as reasons to ban guns occur in areas designated as NO GUNS ALLOWED while places filled wall to wall with guns, like NRA conventions or gun shows, have NEVER, EVER had ANY kind of violence, EVER.

I will always stand up for the right to bear arms. I will always be against gun control. Anti-gun laws have led to the deaths of countless millions worldwide. Example: In Nazi Germany, Jews were banned from having guns. The gestapo took them all while they were defenseless, and sent them to death camps. The Stalin regime in USSR killed millions in gulags and pol pot. These people ended up dying because guns were banned and when the people were taken to be killed they couldn't fight back. In China, Mao's regime killed millions. Chinese citizens were forbidden from having guns.

[RightisRightLeftisWrong]

Dont everyone chew me out on this plz but I think less guns would decrease crime "BUT" it wont work because the crimals already have guns. But hypothically if everyone didnt have a gun I think crime would decrease alot. Just my opinion.

[FKLBRLS]

Well of course if NOBODY had guns then there would be much less crime. Crime wouldn't totally die, because pretty much anything can be used to kill someone. But you can NEVER totally get rid of guns. People will not willingly give up guns. That's why gun control is so stupid, it WON'T work.

[Goose]

Dont everyone chew me out on this plz but I think less guns would decrease crime "BUT" it wont work because the crimals already have guns. But hypothically if everyone didnt have a gun I think crime would decrease alot. Just my opinion. I understand what you mean here, but guns don't cause crime; a person with a knife or just their fist can commit a crime just as someone with a gun can.

Also, it's not possible to make sure everyone didn't have a gun. Even if you could somehow make every gun disappear, there are still people that have the capability to make some sort of projectile weapon; you'd have to make them disappear too.

[FKLBRLS]

ANYTHING, and I repeat ANYTHING that is 3D can be used in some way or another to kill. Even your own 2 fists (I know, I never would've guessed). You can take a piece of paper and slit someone's throat with it, or stuff it down their throat until they suffocate. You can strangle someone with any kind of wire or cable. You can stab someone in the neck with a ballpoint pen and they will bleed out in SECONDS. Anything moderately heavy can be used to beat someone to death.

Simply put, even if somehow you magically got rid of guns, you wouldn't stop murder AT ALL. People will just find new and inventive ways to kill each other.

[rightwingxtremist]

Dont everyone chew me out on this plz but I think less guns would decrease crime "BUT" it wont work because the crimals already have guns. But hypothically if everyone didnt have a gun I think crime would decrease alot. Just my opinion.

Greetings,

What you have said has been and ever will be theory. Something the libbies have yet to understand, even if their ideas and policies are inspired by warm, mushy feelings, is that there is a reality to deal with. This reality translates to stand against every liberal policy - free money, $60,000/year minimum wages, etc...

Without capitalism no one would be motivated to get off of their asses. Without guns, there would be an open season on all law-abiding citizens.

It's tough to take, but it is real.

- Nate

[The Sheriff]

Cite this information? Are you kidding me? The evidence against the gun control argument is so rediculously overwhelming that anyone coming into it with an open mind would be shocked by what's already been done. This is just one more shot of lead to load up into the liberal-killing Logic Cannon. They can run away from logic, but they won't be able to hide forever. Slowly and surely, they're using big government to shift power to their side, but it can only go so far; eventually, gun owners will be forced to either submit to socialism or take a stand. (Assuming the terrorists don't ransack and dominate the unarmed populace first, of course.) If these people are so desperate to live in little, easily-managed, protected-by-America countries, they can leave.

At any rate, opposition to this new evidence would only point out three circumstances and then irrationally claim that those are more correct. We should force the extreme opposition to have firearms at home so that their chances of suicide increase by 5 billion percent or whatever bullshit statistic they're touting right now.