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erichthewebguy
11-30-2005, 01:46 AM
I would have thought for sure that there would be a thread on this by now, but since there isn't (that I saw) I will happily start it...

What did you all think of Bush's speech on Monday regarding immigration? Personally, I thought it was a bunch of B.S. I know that will piss off a lot of people here, but I gotta call it like I see it. First of all, he said that we need Mexican immigrants to "do the jobs that American will not do." That's just an idiotic thing to say. Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO), who are all very proud of here in Colorado, said it best: "Name off all of those jobs, and you will soon find yourself saying 'I did that once' or 'I know someone who did that'." I challenge anyone here to name ONE job, in the U.S.A., that legal U.S. citizens will not do.

Also, he said that we would find all of the illegal immigrants and grant them work visas so that they could work for a specific amount of time then return home. 1: Is anyone naive enough, honestly, to think that they will voluntarily return home upon the expiration of their work visas? Hell no, that only means that they get to make minimum wage for the time that the visa in valid! 2: Why should we reward these people for breaking the law? Shouldn't we round 'em up and ship 'em out? Maybe that's just too common sense.

Not to mention the fact that so many Americans are suffering hardship because of these lawbreakers. A friend of mine owns a framing company. His house is in foreclosure, and he is about to lose 3 of his 5 work trucks. There is only one reason for it. He charges $8.00 per square foot, and makes a very meager profit on it. He only hires legal labor, and plays by the rules. He is constantly being undercut by companies that use illegal labor and charge sometimes as low as $3.50 per square foot. It's crap!

On top of all of that, we have caught at least four Al Qaeda members either living in Mexico near the border, or crossing the border into this country. When in the hell is Bush going to get serious about the security of our people? We need a wall like Israel built, liberals be damned. I am so sick of this hypocrisy.

Tom Tancredo said it best this afternoon: "Bush had better pay attention to his base, and it's eroding quickly. This doesn't help it one durn bit!"

What are everyone else's opinions?

erichthewebguy
11-30-2005, 08:22 PM
Bush is a little off base with what the people want.
That's like saying that Micheal Moore is a little off-base with reailty. Bush is unfortunately WAY off base. He's not even in the ballpark. Like I said, sorry if that makes someone angry, just gotta call it like I see it.

erichthewebguy
11-30-2005, 10:12 PM
I don't know about that eric. I mean hes on the money on several other issues, like Gay Marriage, the War on Terror, and several others.
That's true, but I wasn't discussing those issues on this thread.

Besides, are you saying that it will be a good thing for him to:

1. Continue to leave the border wide open, letting anyone cross illegally into our land (including terrorists)?
2. Reward their illegal behavior by extending "temporary work visas" to these law-breakers?
3. Continue to cut Americans out of many fields, because they cannot compete with the uber-cheap labor that the illegal Mexicans offer?

Argonath
11-30-2005, 11:38 PM
One thing a U.S. citizen won't do?

clean my damn hotel room. . . lazy bastards. . .

erichthewebguy
12-01-2005, 12:18 AM
One thing a U.S. citizen won't do?

clean my damn hotel room. . . lazy bastards. . .
My wife worked hotel housekeeping for a while. She certainly is not a "lazy bastard." She was good at her job, and when she left, they begged her to stay.

Bumblebee
12-01-2005, 12:34 AM
Erich, didn't you believe Bush when he totaled all the illegals caught and sent back, about the many who were bringing in hundreds of marijuana seeds, and caught? Didn't you believe him that he was bringing in 12,500 more to watch the boarders and helecopters, new tecnology. He said he's had helecopters watching before, but was getting more.

Oh heck, Erich I'd like that wall up too.

erichthewebguy
12-01-2005, 01:06 AM
Erich, didn't you believe Bush ...
Yes, and I should say sorry for not recognizing that at least he's doing SOMETHING which is far more than any stinkin lib has done. My main issues are rewarding lawbreakers by giving them work visas, truly securing our southern border, and the fact that Bush said there are jobs that Americans "will not do" - which is a load of crap and we all know it.


Oh heck, Erich I'd like that wall up too.
At least someone has common sense! :smile:

Argonath
12-01-2005, 01:26 AM
My wife worked hotel housekeeping for a while. She certainly is not a "lazy bastard." She was good at her job, and when she left, they begged her to stay.


I know, I was just kiddin'. Rush got something on the needle point. . . other than morphine! HA! Just kiddin' Just like messing with ya. :icon_mrgr

erichthewebguy
12-01-2005, 02:52 AM
I know, I was just kiddin'. Rush got something on the needle point. . . other than morphine! HA! Just kiddin' Just like messing with ya. :icon_mrgr
lol... that was good :biggrin: