10 Reasons Why Gay Marriage is Wrong...

[PolyPartisan]

10 Reasons Why Gay Marriage Is Wrong


1) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eye glasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

3) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

5) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britney Spears' 55-hour "just-for-fun" marriage would be destroyed.

6) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

I'm not saying that I agree with all of that, but it's still interesting food for thought.

[Goose]

Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
Hanging around tall people might make a short person wish to be tall.



People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
No, until someone attempts to change a dog's legal standing.


That's all I have time for, it's late here.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

1) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eye glasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

Those you have listed are life enhancing, homosexuality at the nth degree is life destroying (as in extinction)


3) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

How about incest, is that crazy behaviour,or is that ok with you?


5) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britney Spears' 55-hour "just-for-fun" marriage would be destroyed.

Who ever said that stupid wench's 55 hour marriage enhanced the sanctity of marriage?


6) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

Straight marriages are NATURAL because they produce children, infertile straight couples at least are sticking with the natural order of things in that they choose their natural partner.



7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children

This is taking the best of one scenario and the worst of another, thus it is disingenuous.

Using your logic, the percentage of straight families that produce gay children is small, so the percentage of gay families that produce straight would be small too? yes?


8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America

If you don't like the status quo, move. The last I saw, this was a MAJORITY ruled country. So far the MAJORITY for what ever their reasons, DO NOT WANT gay marriage institutionalised. Got it?


9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

You call this success?

Compare society now with say the 1930's or 40's.

Here, let me tell you a story.
In Africa, on the Serrangeti game reserve, the elephant population was getting a little out of control. The managers of the reserve decided to kull a large number of old male elephants, the patriarchs of some of the herds.

A few years after they did this, the younger males started to exhibit behaviour that was UNSEEN in the mannerisms of an elephant. Wanton destruction of trees, violent attacks on other herds or animals etc. What was most noteable was the herds where the partriarchs were not kulled, were not exhibiting these same deveations.

Why would you say this was?


10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

Life enhancemenst vs life degredation (as in extinction)



I'm not saying that I agree with all of that, but it's still interesting food for thought.

Uh huh, that's why you started a brand new thread instead of adding it to an ongoing discussion?

Sure.

[Guns R Cool]

This is a stupid thread. PolyPartisan you're a ======. If you have a belief post that belief, but don't be retarded. Comparing gay marriage to cars a long life spans, how original.

[Bumblebee]

GRC, what is your new Avatar, a twriling daisy? Do I get a prize like you promised?

[Guns R Cool]

nope.......

[Bumblebee]

Damn it. :confused:

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

lawn mower blade?

[Oi_Ve]

This is a stupid thread. PolyPartisan you're a ======. If you have a belief post that belief, but don't be retarded. Comparing gay marriage to cars a long life spans, how original.

Well let's see....married people tend to live longer, have fewer mental and physical health problems, be more econimically productive....so actually it does enhance life.
And anything that improves life can end life as well if its put to the nth degree.
You put too much nitrogen in the air, and we all die.
Too many people on the planet, we all die.
Too many trees and we all die.
Too much water and we all die.
Too much medicine will kill you.

Anything to the nth degree is bad. But we also have to look at how likely it is for it to get to the nth degree.
And guess what, gays are going to be the majority. Not now, not ever, so the idea them leading to extinction is preposterous.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

Well let's see....married people tend to live longer, have fewer mental and physical health problems, be more econimically productive....so actually it does enhance life.

That data is based on hetrosexual marriages, you cannot assume that this is fact with homosexual couples as you have no hard data to back that up. For all you know it might be the exact opposite when it comes to homo's.

That that point of yours is irrelevant at this point.



And anything that improves life can end life as well if its put to the nth degree.

You put too much nitrogen in the air, and we all die.
Too many people on the planet, we all die.
Too many trees and we all die.
Too much water and we all die.
Too much medicine will kill you.

Anything to the nth degree is bad. But we also have to look at how likely it is for it to get to the nth degree.

Again that's not the point. THe statement that the argument "Homosexuality is unnatural" is not a factual argument is what is the point. By virtue of the fact that homo's are incapable, BY THE VERY NATURE of their relationship, of reproducing is what defines the relationship as unnatural.

That is the point.


And guess what, gays are going to be the majority. Not now, not ever, so the idea them leading to extinction is preposterous.

You're either very ignorant, or you understand exactly what my point is, yet you won't acknowledge it because it will undermine your position.

I, for one don't buy the ignorance option.

[Benado]

8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

My religion is totally against gay marriage. I really like my religion and what it teaches, and that why I'm against it and will continue to oppose it.


9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

My religion also teaches that children have the best chance at success when they have a male and female role model at home. So I'll stick with that, too.


BTW, GNC is your avatar a logo for an online gaming website?

[Count Rugen]

My religion also teaches that children have the best chance at success when they have a male and female role model at home. So I'll stick with that, too.


BTW, GNC is your avatar a logo for an online gaming website?
What's your religion? What part of your religion teaches that?

[Oi_Ve]

You're either very ignorant, or you understand exactly what my point is, yet you won't acknowledge it because it will undermine your position.

I, for one don't buy the ignorance option.

Whoops, typo. sorry about that...

it should read

"gays are NOT going to be the majority, not now not ever"

and fine, homosexuality is unnatural. your point would be what?
There are lots of things that are unnatural, yet you tolerate them. Why? Because they improve life.
Its proven that people in long term relationships such as marriage or the homosexual equivolent there of live longer and better. They consume more, they are more productive, and agree that they are happier than when/if they weren't married.
Relationships improve the quality of life; marriage improves the quality of life.

[Benado]

My religion also teaches that children have the best chance at success when they have a male and female role model at home. So I'll stick with that, too.

I wanna clarify that I said "best" and not "the only chance". Single parents can do it-just usually not as good.

[Count Rugen]

I wanna clarify that I said "best" and not "the only chance". Single parents can do it-just usually not as good.
Either way, I don't know of any religion that teaches that, unless worshipping the warped 50's is a religion...

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

and fine, homosexuality is unnatural. your point would be what?

Finally!


There are lots of things that are unnatural, yet you tolerate them. Why? Because they improve life.

How does homosexuality improve life?


Its proven that people in long term relationships such as marriage or the homosexual equivolent there of live longer and better.

Source?


They consume more, they are more productive, and agree that they are happier than when/if they weren't married.
Relationships improve the quality of life; marriage improves the quality of life.

Over what period of time were these surveys conducted?

As I understand it, homosexuals are more promiscuous (sp) than their hetro sounter parts. That blows your theory all to hell and back.

[PolyPartisan]

Uh huh, that's why you started a brand new thread instead of adding it to an ongoing discussion?

Sure.

Because no existing threads existed where it would be completely relevant to the flow of discussion. Some of those points I think have truth, others I don't (I copied and pasted the list from a blog). I don't even intend to debate the issue. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

Uh huh, sure you are

[PolyPartisan]

Uh huh, sure you are

I also bet they you think I'm a liberal, right?

Just to set the record straight, I think that marriage is a religious and social pact that has no legal bearing, and thus shouldn't be recognized by a secular government. If you want the current legal benefits of marriage, then write up a legal contract that has the equivelent and get the government to sign it. They can call it a legal contract, and you, your church, your family, and your friends can call it a marriage. If others don't consider your marriage to be true (Such is the case with gays), then they don't have to recognize it, the same way Christians are forced to "recognize" Bar Mitzvahs.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

You'd loose money

[Benado]

Either way, I don't know of any religion that teaches that, unless worshipping the warped 50's is a religion...

First, what do religions teach-that single parent families are the way to go?

Second, what is the warped 50's?

[Count Rugen]

First, what do religions teach-that single parent families are the way to go?

Second, what is the warped 50's?
I've never known a religion to teach how many parents you should have.
so I'll ask again: What is your religion and what part of it teaches the things you've said.
The warped 50's is a mystical age that a lot of Americans seem to opine for. When wishing for the era of family values and the solid parental unit what they are really looking for is an age when black people were hung for acting uppity, women were still little more than property and the mere accusation that you were a communist could ruin you career, not to mention the era when a good number of our nation's serial killers were sired.

[Wadi66]

The warped 50's is a mystical age that a lot of Americans seem to opine for. When wishing for the era of family values and the solid parental unit what they are really looking for is an age when black people were hung for acting uppity, women were still little more than property and the mere accusation that you were a communist could ruin you career, not to mention the era when a good number of our nation's serial killers were sired.CC, as usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Man, the garbage rolling around in your head is really twisted.

[spike]

Gay people may not be able to produce children...but they can give them a better life by adopting them

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

ROFLMAO

That was a great analogy MC