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Matt Snowden
11-02-2005, 08:14 PM
I think a very important and yet very forgotten emotion in America today is the sense of pride and patriotism that this country's people once had for it. This idea of a "Proud American" is quickly losing its meaning and devotion. Part of me wishes that I could have been born in the 1920s and been a part of the greatest times in American history (WWII, Women’s Suffrage Movement, Vietnam, ext). Looking back at America's greatest victories, achievements, failures, and mishaps leaves me overwhelmed with a sense of pride and honor to be American. As I’m sure many of you have heard this famous speech given by Winston Churchill addressed to the House of Commons of the British Parliament on August 20, 1940, at the height of the Battle of Britain:

"Never was so much owed by so many to so few" -Winston Churchil
During this time the United States was brought together in a fellowship that bonded the country like no other time in history. Even though Churchill, a man of great stature and nobility gave this speech about the British he goes on to speak of the numerous ways in which America had been a crucial ally in the war and the ultimate victory that followed. It is to my fearsome heart that I dare say this emotion or sense of Togetherness, American Pride, United We Stand and above all, ONE Nation Under God, is soon to be lost. One my ask, "who is to blame for this?" And I'm sure many of you may come back to the generic answer of blaming the liberals for their anti-war political views, but in actuality you have to ask yourself the same question. Who is really to blame, and the answer my friends is that it’s in part, all of our faults. Whether you be liberal/conservative, right/left, Democrat/Republican we all have a roll that adds to the large picture. Although I associate myself with the Republican Party, I feel the growing tensions between “rival” parties add to the sensation of an "un-united country". It is for this reason that I ask of you all who understand what it is I am trying to convey to leave a short response including the sentence, "I am Proud to be an American." If not its fine as well I would just like to look back at this threat and try to recollect my quickly fading sense of patriotism.
I thank you all.

Matthew Daniel Snowden

Matt Snowden
11-02-2005, 08:27 PM
I do think that it is safe to say that Michael Moore is subhuman and doesn't count. He is a disgrace to America's world renowned reputation.

Madcowhunter
11-02-2005, 09:29 PM
You really wanted to be born in the 1920's? Well, good luck nine years later.

But I agree with you completely on everything else.

Matt Snowden
11-02-2005, 09:43 PM
The depression wouldn't have effected me :wink: my family is doing fine but I can see what you mean

Wadi66
11-02-2005, 10:20 PM
I would hardly describe Viet Nam as one of our greatest moments in history. It was that point in time when "Proud American" began to diminish. And it did start with Liberals. It was then that the party leadership sold out to members of the Communist Party USA. All the protest marches were carefully orchastrated to cast a disparaging and shameless light on America.

I'm proud to be an American because I've studied our history and the framers of the Constitution. I know what this nation stands for. If we weren't the best, the rest of the world's population wouldn't want what we have.

the-man
11-02-2005, 10:24 PM
ya the viet nam war was in the time period when liberals were called hippies.

Wadi66
11-02-2005, 10:59 PM
ya the viet nam war was in the time period when liberals were called hippies.The majority of those "hippies" were stoned half the time. The promise land as espoused by the commies appealed to their drug induced euphoria.

GoJeepGo
11-02-2005, 11:00 PM
I'm very proud to be an American because of the principles upon which we were founded. America is not an ethnicity, it is a way of life. Under what other circumstance could "American" be hyphenated? One certainly could never be an "American-African". America is about people yearning to be free and prospering from the unbridled creativity of humankind. At least, it was once.

====in liberals.

Take heart. All the good things in men will invariably win out in the long run... even if it is in a time span greater than our own lives. America has always been about that. Just because the big problems don't get solved today it doesn't mean we're not on the right track. When is the last time you saw a black man being auctioned in the street? Not for well over a hundred years... we're not perfect, but we're slowly going in the right direction. It's just a bitch that these things can't be thoroughly resolved in the span of a lifetime.

Perhaps that's the one real big difference between liberals and conservatives... we want the same things but differ on the timeline. Spoiled libs always want everything NOW.

Wadi66
11-02-2005, 11:04 PM
Perhaps that's the one real big difference between liberals and conservatives... we want the same things but differ on the timeline. Spoiled libs always want everything NOW.The majority of Americans want the same thing, true. But where we differ is how best to reach that destination. Unfortunately there exists an element within our borders that doesn't want what most do, instead, their objective is to completely do away with the ingredients that led to our greatness.

GoJeepGo
11-02-2005, 11:05 PM
The majority of Americans want the same thing, true. But where we differ is how best to reach that destination.

I agree... my take is that they want their way NOW, which is the end that justifies their various wacky means.

GoJeepGo
11-02-2005, 11:13 PM
Part of me wishes that I could have been born in the 1920s and been a part of the greatest times in American history (WWII, Women’s Suffrage Movement, Vietnam, ext)

I appreciate your sentiments, but where's the "morning in America" spirit? Those were the greatest and also some of the hardest times in our history, and when the extraordinary times called upon men to stand up they did so with character and principle. Maybe this is the calling of our time, and it is we who are now asked to stand tall in the face of difficult times. If not us, who? Liberals?

Madcowhunter
11-03-2005, 01:06 AM
The depression wouldn't have effected me :wink:

The depression effected everyone. The social classes are itnertwined, the ealthy rely on the poor and medium families for work, and everyone rely's on the rich for pay. Thus the depression hit, the rich lost their companies, and the poor lost their jobs. ANYWAYS..... back to the subject :biggrin:

Matt Snowden
11-03-2005, 06:26 AM
cow I was exagerating bro, obviously I know the depression would have affected me.
And when I suggested Vietnam being one of America's greatest moments in history I was meerly refering to the war, not the stupid liberals all opposing it.

LovetoSki
11-03-2005, 07:01 AM
And when I suggested Vietnam being one of America's greatest moments in history I was meerly refering to the war.


War should never be considered a great moment in history. Sometimes its necessary, but millions of people die and suffer during war. I dont think mass death, no matter what the ultimate cause of it, is the greatest thing humans can accomplish.

Matt Snowden
11-03-2005, 07:05 AM
Once again, I am not refering to the suffering and death that comes from war, I am speaking of the binding power that comes with it to unite a country. I also said in my original post, "america's greatest victories, achievements, FAILURES, and MISHAPS." Just because 50,000 US soldiers died in Vietnam does not make it a bad thing. Of course its a bad thing, but it expresses the dedication and devotion this country has to its ideologies and how much we support them. America does not accept defeat.