Dagnummit

[LiberalsAreBabyKillers!]

I say, It's is about bloody time that someone commend Dagnummit for his already beyond exceptional contributions to this site. He agrees with me (powerfully) on every issue that has come up to date, he's not afraid to get down and dirty and he takes no prisoners. He never backs down. Personally, I don't like to hold grudges, so when things start to look to be hopelessly circling and I'm obviously getting nowhere (Meaning whoever I'm arguing with at that particular point has their head shoved up their ass) I will backdown (Away from the internet, this couldn't be more Untrue, I'm just sure that I make amends in some way). He always asks the tough questions. This is how all politics should be in america today. Also, he seems to have the same thought patterns as me, despite being rough and tumble, he is also, obiviously a very good and forgiving follower of christ. Dagnummit, buddy, you get a gold star.

[Madcowhunter]

Speak for yourself mate.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with Dagummit. I agree with much of what he says, but there is some of what he says that I do disagree with. His contributions deserve as much thanks as any other active member on this board.

To Dagummit: I have no problems with you, being a conservative, I agree with most of what you say. The one problem I have with your beliefs, is that you don't believe in a system of government that is completely fair and just, only that it is completely conservative.

[Guns R Cool]

Yes, he's allright. He has good old conservative values. The only problem is that he cuses to much. You should only be profane under special cricumstances.

[Wadi66]

don't believe in a system of government that is completely fair and just, only that it is completely conservative.what part of a conservative system of government isn't completely fair and just?

[Guns R Cool]

reactionary dictator

[Wadi66]

reactionary dictatorHUH?

[Guns R Cool]

what part of a conservative system of government isn't completely fair and just?

if you had a conservative dictator, then the governemt wouldn't be fair.

[Madcowhunter]

what part of a conservative system of government isn't completely fair and just?

A conservative government is just and sound. But it can't be, because it's controlled by man, who will never completely follow it. Dag believes the USA is for only Christians, and not subject to Muslims (correct me if I'm wrong on that one Dag, I said that out of observations on "those darn pigs..."). So any government that allows only the Christian faith and only certain types of ethnicity, even if Conservative, will never be a sound government. I was not saying completely conservative is unjust, but it becomes unjust when controlled by certain people.

[Madcowhunter]

if you had a conservative dictator, then the governemt wouldn't be fair.

Exactly! GRC just summed it up! A government ruled by a dictator, even a conservative dictator, will never be fair!

[Wadi66]

if you had a conservative dictator, then the governemt wouldn't be fair.
Exactly! GRC just summed it up! A government ruled by a dictator, even a conservative dictator, will never be fair!There is not, never has been, nor could ever be, a Conservative dictator. The two are polar opposites.
A conservative government is just and sound. But it can't be, because it's controlled by man, who will never completely follow it.The very minute a conservative form of government ceases to be followed, it is no longer conservative.
So any government that allows only the Christian faith and only certain types of ethnicity, even if Conservative,A true conservative form of government does not involve itself in the religious affairs of others, except from the standpoint of making sure one religious sect is not down drodden by another. In that instance, it is not involving itself in religion, but rather protecting equally the rights of the oppressed.

[Guns R Cool]

A true conservative form of government does not involve itself in the religious affairs of others, except from the standpoint of making sure one religious sect is not down drodden by another. In that instance, it is not involving itself in religion, but rather protecting equally the rights of the oppressed.

Then I guess I am not a conservative.

[Wadi66]

Then I guess I am not a conservative.That's your choice. If you're a conservative then you embrace true conservatism, if you're a liberal you embrace liberalism as it is, if you don't embrace either, you're a moderate.

[Guns R Cool]

I meant I was a reactionist. The muslims oppress Christians in the middle east, asia, and africa. I have no problem if we oppressed minority religions.

[Wadi66]

I meant I was a reactionist. The muslims oppress Christians in the middle east, asia, and africa. I have no problem if we oppressed minority religions.The God given right to life is what has to be protected, regardless of religious affiliation. No one has the right to tell another what to believe and what not to. Invariably, oppression involves violance against the person. The person is entitled to protection. At no time should the sect be the object of retaliation, the perpetrator is. Not all Christians are good, not all Muslims are bad.

Before this thread developes into another religion bashing, can we stick to what constitutes a conservative and what doesn't?

[Madcowhunter]

A true conservative form of government does not involve itself in the religious affairs of others, except from the standpoint of making sure one religious sect is not down drodden by another. In that instance, it is not involving itself in religion, but rather protecting equally the rights of the oppressed.

You didn't understand what I was saying. I never said Conservative government involved itself with religion, I said Dag involved his conservative politics with religion, to a point where it is unjust.

[Dagummit]

I say, It's is about bloody time that someone commend Dagnummit for his already beyond exceptional contributions to this site. He agrees with me (powerfully) on every issue that has come up to date, he's not afraid to get down and dirty and he takes no prisoners. He never backs down. Personally, I don't like to hold grudges, so when things start to look to be hopelessly circling and I'm obviously getting nowhere (Meaning whoever I'm arguing with at that particular point has their head shoved up their ass) I will backdown (Away from the internet, this couldn't be more Untrue, I'm just sure that I make amends in some way). He always asks the tough questions. This is how all politics should be in america today. Also, he seems to have the same thought patterns as me, despite being rough and tumble, he is also, obiviously a very good and forgiving follower of christ. Dagnummit, buddy, you get a gold star.


Wow! thanks bro for the extremely kind words. That means a lot to me!

[Dagummit]

Yes, he's allright. He has good old conservative values. The only problem is that he cuses to much. You should only be profane under special cricumstances.

Well, I use to not cuss at all. And comparingly to others here, I cuss nowhere near "a lot". I just, like anyone else, get to the point of fustration where my emotions get high and the curses fly. But in my defense, when I took my break for this PhD I am in, nowhere in my posts before that time did I use cuss words. It is only after that...but the stauncness (sp?) of liberalism has brought the ugly out in me. It'll subside though...

EDIT: Hold on a minute, are you being sarcastic?...because your signature has some choice words in it...lol.

[Dagummit]

Dag believes the USA is for only Christians, and not subject to Muslims (correct me if I'm wrong on that one Dag, I said that out of observations on "those darn pigs...").

Well, I think that anyone can come here and privately practice their own religion. My comments in that post you refer too are that I feel and believe that this country was founded by Christians and the "freedom of religion" aspect was meant to worship God how you so choose. I don't feel that non-Christians should impose their religion on me and I wouln't impose mine on them. The government needs to stop allowing the religion of secularism and atheism to dominate what happens in this country. I side with Clarnece Thomas in the notion that a state can have a state supported religion becuase the Constitution states that "Congress shall not make any..." (1st admendment), Congress is the federal gov't, not the state gov'ts.

[Madcowhunter]

Oh I see, I misunderstood you then. I was under the impression you felt Christianity should be imposed on others. Then I am sorry.