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the-man
10-13-2005, 10:51 PM
I not sure what the hell is going on. All i know is that hillary clinton could possibly be the demecratic runner, I dont think I heard that the demecrats have said that she would. Who are the republicans going to dish out for the elections? and what could possibly be the outcome of the election?

erichthewebguy
10-13-2005, 10:58 PM
That's funny... I was just talking to a conservative friend of mine today about that (Big Al, if you're reading this - hi!) and we pretty much agreed that as of now noone knows and there is noone stepping forward.

I think it would be interesting if Condi ran against Hillary. I have to (embarrasingly enough) admit that I do not know enough about Condi and her political views to say that it would be a good thing if she were president, but I don't see Cheney running at all.

As a side-joke, imagine if Condi did run against Hillary? The liberals would go into meltdown... must vote for woman... oh, both women... must vote for "minority"... must vote for democrat... democrat white... republican minority... does not compute... *pop* *sizzle* *smoke*

the-man
10-13-2005, 10:59 PM
lol :icon_razz

i think it would be really funny if they said to hillary " hell no you arn't running" and stick someone else there.

erichthewebguy
10-13-2005, 11:04 PM
i think it would be really funny if they said hillary " hell no you arn't running" and stick someone else there.
Did'ja hear what Ted Kennedy said earlier today? I'm afraid that I can't cite the exact quote, but it was something to the effect of "I would throw all of my support behind John Kerry, not Hillary Clinton"

Bumblebee
10-13-2005, 11:51 PM
I think it would be interesting if Condi ran against Hillary. I have to (embarrasingly enough) admit that I do not know enough about Condi and her political views to say that it would be a good thing if she were president, but I don't see Cheney running at all.
Erich, Condi has the most impressive credentials of anyone. I think she could beat Hillary.
According to polls, Guiliani and McCain could beat Hillary, too, but the Republicans might not nominate either one, because they don't like McCain, and Guiliani is pro-choice and for gun control. Cheney is unelectable because of his health, besides, he doesn't want to run.
http://en.wikipedia.or/wiki/Condoleeza_Rice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleeza_Rice)

Schmitty27
10-13-2005, 11:58 PM
I've said before I'd like to see Santorum run. He just may not have enough experience yet.

Bumblebee
10-14-2005, 12:01 AM
I've said before I'd like to see Santorum run. He just may not have enough experience yet.
Actually, I like Santorum myself, but he is not known as well, plus, he is too far to the right. He can't win.

erichthewebguy
10-14-2005, 12:32 AM
I've said before I'd like to see Santorum run. He just may not have enough experience yet.
I would never in a million years vote for Santorum. He is all kinds of corrupt. He introduced a bill (senate bill 786) that would cripple the National Weather Service. They would be prohibited from giving any weather data to anyone but private for-profit companies like Accuweather. And why? Because Accuweather (who happens to be based in PA, just like Santorum) asked him to. Accuweather would have us pay twice for our own weather data. Once with our tax dollars, and once again by forcing us to either subscribe to their service for a fee, or listen to sponsors before we get the weather data that we own. It's the people's data, not Accuweather's. Accuweather only dissimenates the data that the National Weather Service collects.

Luckily the bill will likely die in committee, but that doesn't take anything away from the fact that the bastard put himself in front of everyone else, when it is clear that the public would be FAR better served by the National Weather Service. No, I hope that Santorum does not run.

erichthewebguy
10-14-2005, 12:36 AM
Erich, Condi has the most impressive credentials of anyone. I think she could beat Hillary.
According to polls, Guiliani and McCain could beat Hillary, too, but the Republicans might not nominate either one, because they don't like McCain, and Guiliani is pro-choice and for gun control. Cheney is unelectable because of his health, besides, he doesn't want to run.
http://en.wikipedia.or/wiki/Condoleeza_Rice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleeza_Rice)
Good deal, thanks for the link. Funny you should throw down a Wikipedia link, I was just there mere moments ago editing some articles ( i have about 30 or so that I maintain).

I shall check it out, and thanks.

Oi_Ve
10-14-2005, 10:25 AM
condi vs. hillary, a cat fight on capitol hill....(I smell a book idea coming on)...
I think it would be an interesting race if that happened, especially since young people (hell, people period) might actually watch the debates.
I also think the best move the Democrats could do is perform a swift kick to the Republican's "cojones" (to quote MC) and not have Hillary run.
That would leave a lot of faces red.
It would be a surprise to see Kerry run again. Lately it seems like losing a presidential election is more or less an order to commit ritualistic suicide (sepuuku, if you're so inclined).
Gore went into isolation.
Bob Dole hasn't said much of anything except on viagra commercials.
Ross has been quiet for a looong time.
Nader....well nobody ever listened to Nader in the first place...except Moore...so like I said, no one listens to Nader
Pat Buchanen...he's said a few things recently but hasn't exactly raked in media coverage...people don't like Pat...Pat doesn't like Pat.
Edwards couldn't even win his own state because he was nothing more than an overly ambitious ambulance chaser who was only chosen because he's the closest thing washington has to a pretty boy. He's out of there.
Alan Keyes, though, keeps coming back for another punch in the stomach though. Poor ol' guy.
Anyway, Republicans will play hell trying to find someone who physically beats Hillary (in that Hillary is female and people want a female, if only for a change of pace). They'll need a pretty boy of their own, or another woman if they hope to win the looks contest....and yes, looks matter that much.
The problem is that people think that because we haven't had a woman president women aren't equal in politics.
I usally point out that its not societies fault that women don't chose to run for president that often. At least one's the femi-nazis like.
Then I correct them by reminding them about Jimmy Carter.

Bumblebee
10-14-2005, 11:47 AM
Actually there already is a book out with that name, by Dick Morris. It's already been out there. I don't know if it's titled Hillary vs Condi, or the other way around.

I heard John Kerry say, just after he lost to Bush, that he will run again in 2008. His wife Ter-ay-sa, :rolleyes: said she would go at it again with him. Kerry thinks that because he had all those millions of votes he will get the same people voting for him again. He is so arrogant, that he doesn't take into consideration that many were voting against Bush. Ted Kennedy did say that he would back Kerry up. Kennedy also doesn't like the Clintons, but the Democrats are counting on Hillary to save them and get the White House back. I know that Hillary is running already. but all this could be moot, because, it will all depend in what is going on in Iraq and our country in 2008.

the-man
10-14-2005, 12:13 PM
Did'ja hear what Ted Kennedy said earlier today? I'm afraid that I can't cite the exact quote, but it was something to the effect of "I would throw all of my support behind John Kerry, not Hillary Clinton"

i missed that.

Goose
10-14-2005, 12:44 PM
Actually there already is a book out with that name, by Dick Morris. It's already been out there. I don't know if it's titled Hillary vs Condi, or the other way around.
The book is called "Condi vs. Hillary: The Next Great Presidential Race", and like you said, by Dick Morris.

Schmitty27
10-14-2005, 12:47 PM
I would never in a million years vote for Santorum. He is all kinds of corrupt. He introduced a bill (senate bill 786) that would cripple the National Weather Service. They would be prohibited from giving any weather data to anyone but private for-profit companies like Accuweather. And why? Because Accuweather (who happens to be based in PA, just like Santorum) asked him to. Accuweather would have us pay twice for our own weather data. Once with our tax dollars, and once again by forcing us to either subscribe to their service for a fee, or listen to sponsors before we get the weather data that we own. It's the people's data, not Accuweather's. Accuweather only dissimenates the data that the National Weather Service collects.

Luckily the bill will likely die in committee, but that doesn't take anything away from the fact that the bastard put himself in front of everyone else, when it is clear that the public would be FAR better served by the National Weather Service. No, I hope that Santorum does not run.

I understand what you're saying there. And it would have adverse effects for you. On the other hand I live in western PA. My hometown, Johnstown, is listed as one of the worst cities economy-wise, and is on a list of other cities that is in an emergency state in the same regard. Where the Accuweather hike may harm weather agencies but it would be a boost to our economies here. Heck Lancanster's prime economic resource is probably the sale of Amish quilts. There probably is a better way to jump start economies over here, but I like to see that he's thinking outside the box and isn't trying to do everything by raising taxes and unsuccessfully getting new business to come in.

Topiary Lady
10-14-2005, 01:07 PM
I don't think it will make any difference who wants in from the democrat side. The nomination will be Hillary's for the asking. I don't know who will run for our side, but Bumblebee is right, it will all depend on Iraq.

Let's just hope and pray that all goes well saturday. Our guys over there have worked so hard and done an outstanding job setting things in place for this important vote.

Horray Troops!!!

the-man
10-14-2005, 01:16 PM
who are the possibe vice presidents?

Topiary Lady
10-14-2005, 01:20 PM
Good question the-man! Good Lord, who would even want to be Hillary's slave, uh, oh, I meant to say vice? I nominate Monica, since she likes spending time in the Oval Office on her knees.

Wadi66
10-14-2005, 01:22 PM
Did'ja hear what Ted Kennedy said earlier today? I'm afraid that I can't cite the exact quote, but it was something to the effect of "I would throw all of my support behind John Kerry, not Hillary Clinton"I don't know how many of you were paying attention during the last Presedential primary, but there was one whale of a fight in the demo party between the Kennedy faction and the Clinton faction. Dean was Clinton's guy and the Kennedy's nailed him after his screaming fit, which was nothing more than hyping his supporters. For the sake of appearances and party unity, Hillary appeared with Kerry, but the amount of support Kerry received as the candidate was far less than what a candidate would otherwise expect.

Sadly, just because Condi has academic credentials doesn't mean she is candidate material. A lot of consideration goes into that.

Topiary Lady
10-14-2005, 01:28 PM
Do you think there's going to be a big smack down between the Clinton and Kennedy again this time Wadi? A big brawl for the liberal kingdom?

Wadi66
10-14-2005, 01:35 PM
Do you think there's going to be a big smack down between the Clinton and Kennedy again this time Wadi? A big brawl for the liberal kingdom?TL, it never stopped. Although after the election it became more subdued. But you can bet your beepers its still going on. Since Kennedy's boy lost the election, which Clinton knew he would (which is why they wanted Dean), Kennedy's influence has weakened, but he still has a lot of OLD TIME supporters. These guys don't give up their power very easily. Imagine playing king of the mountain (or hill). There is always someone wanting to knock you off and take the position.

Topiary Lady
10-14-2005, 01:45 PM
Thanks for the good news Wadi! Hee. Oh I just love it when the liberals fight. The only problem is that I cannot root for a winner among them. Because I'm such a fair minded person, I hate them all equally.

the-man
10-14-2005, 02:43 PM
Good question the-man! Good Lord, who would even want to be Hillary's slave, uh, oh, I meant to say vice? I nominate Monica, since she likes spending time in the Oval Office on her knees.

what you said makes me wish i had never changed my name from ass-hole

heres what it would of said.

Good question ass-hole! Good Lord, who would even want to be Hillary's slave, uh, oh, I meant to say vice? I nominate Monica, since she likes spending time in the Oval Office on her knees.

Wadi66
10-14-2005, 06:39 PM
What would we call him? Certainly can't call him the First Gentleman, he isn't one.

Topiary Lady
10-14-2005, 07:49 PM
What should we call him? LOL! Where should we start? How about The First Pervert?

All American Kid
10-14-2005, 08:34 PM
who are the possibe vice presidents?
JC Watts for VP would be great if a righty like George Allen or Frist won the nomination

If a moderate like Guiliani or McCain won the nomination Condi or Santurom would be a great VP pick IMO