View Full Version : Should doctor assistanted suicide be legal?
jackhabit
12-15-2005, 08:09 PM
the women thing was regarding the church's policy of no women priests, and i understand that the church isn't accepting of pedophiles (although you'd never know that from the "reassignment rehabillitation" they gave all those pervs over the years.)
the "rape the pope" thing was something i saw, actually. 'bout 5-6 years ago, i was working as a bike messenger and was flying down a busy street in my town when i saw that some vandals (more like "hilarious vandals!") put some of their own letters up on the marquee of an abandoned movie theater spelling out "rape the pope." i damn near crashed my bike i was laughing so hard. the other side of the marquee said "rob the robot" which was either a command or a reference to the robot of the same moniker that came with the orginal NES.
jackhabit
12-15-2005, 08:11 PM
the only better piece of graffitti i ever saw was a big sticker with C3PO on it that read "C3PO IS GAY." he is too...
emptythemag
12-15-2005, 10:34 PM
No...if you are saved (by accepting in Jesus Christ as the risen Lord and Savior of your life), then there is absolutley nothing that you can do to unhindge the bond that Jesus' blood has done for you. When I mean nothing, as Paul states in Romans 8:35-39 that there is nothing in creation that can seperate us from God's love (our salvation). That nothing in creation, includes, the devil, his angels, and to answer your question, even our own actions. Killing oneself would make the Lord very sad, but that would not condemn you to hell if you are saved. Don't listen to Catholic dogma on that issue, they have no idea what they are talking about.
(btw...I am just reinforcing your answer to GRC...)
I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that you are Southern Baptist.
Madcowhunter
12-15-2005, 10:44 PM
Uncanny guess emptythemag!:icon_bigg
Dagummit
12-15-2005, 11:01 PM
I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that you are Southern Baptist.
yeap :wink:
Oi_Ve
01-21-2006, 06:18 PM
"Supreme Court Upholds Oregon's Assisted Suicide Law
The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday upheld Oregon's physician-assisted suicide law by a vote of 6 to 3. The court ruled that then Attorney General John D. Ashcroft exceeded his legal authority in 2001 when he threatened to prohibit doctors from prescribing federally controlled drugs if they authorized lethal doses of the medications under the Oregon Death With Dignity Act, the Washington Post reported.
Justice Kennedy wrote in the majority opinion that the issue was more about the states' right to regulate medical practice rather than the patient's right to die. He explained that Ashcroft took an overly broad interpretation of the federal Controlled Substances Act (CSA). Kennedy wrote that the law was designed to stop drug abuse and drug trafficking, not to replace the states' role in deciding what state-licensed doctors may or may not do within state borders.
Since the physician-assisted suicide law was first adopted by Oregon voters in 1994, it has withstood several challenges. The law allows doctors to prescribe, but not administer, a lethal dose to a terminally ill patient who requests it, provided that the patient is mentally competent, according to the Washington Post. In 1997 Oregon voters rejected a referendum that sought to overturn the law. Two efforts in Congress that were supported by Ashcroft when he was a senator failed, according to the Washington Post.
The favorable Supreme Court ruling could pave the way for other states to adopt similar physician-assisted suicide laws. The executive director of the Death With Dignity National Center, Peggy Sandeen, stated, 'The favorable ruling by the Supreme Court now permits other states to move forward in replicating Oregon's landmark law.'"
Sorry everyone who voted 'No' on this issue.
Wadi66
01-21-2006, 06:43 PM
Regardless of the issue, the fact that the Supreme Court upheld the States right is important to me. If States fail to have rights as States, then individuals eventually loose their rights as individuals. Both succumb to the dictates of the Federal government, which in contrary to what the framers had in mind.
i_love_being_so_wicked
01-29-2007, 05:07 AM
I know this poll is old but I could not resist reading it, voting, and posting my opinion. I've always been interested in end of life decision making and it should be a person's own decision when they want to die. I have already written my living will and my regular will as well and I have made it quite clear that if I am brain dead, I do not want to be kept alive by machines just because my heart is still beating. That doesn't make you alive if you can't take care of yourself and do all of the things that ultimately make us human. Also if I had cancer and I knew that I could never be cured, I would want a doctor to help me end my life when the pain started to become unbearable. Everyone should be able to choose for themselves what is right according to their own beliefs and not choose for anyone else.
Dr. Madd
01-29-2007, 10:52 AM
I am against Doctors doing this because the hypocratic oath states to do them no harm. Same reason I'm against Doctors performing abortions (That and the fact that abortion kills babies, of course) . Am I against a person's right to do themselves in? No. I don't agree with it, wouldn't do myself, wouldn't do it like that poor Terry Shiavo (No one should die a slow death.)
People should get a permit from the courthouse, fill it out, and then go home and do themselves in, with family nearby. No jumpers, no taking anyone with you. That's what worries me.
i_love_being_so_wicked
01-29-2007, 05:32 PM
Oh, screw the Hippocratic Oath. If a person is on their deathbed, you really can't do anymore good for them. So in helping them end their pain, you are doing something good for them in my opinion. As for abortion, I wouldn't do it myself but I think that the choice should be the woman's alone because it is her body and other people or the government should not dictate what we do to ourselves. I only think abortion should be used in cases of rape, incest, or when people have medical problems but not after the first trimester has passed because the baby has developed too far by then and it is not right to kill it. No one can change my mind about these things.
viper2000rt
01-29-2007, 07:14 PM
yes, we do, but in our defense, we're a bunch of ====ing idiots: no gays, no women, no married clergy, no birth control, NO doctor assisted suicide, no abortion, and no accountability. just in case you were wondering, pedophiles are still acceptable.
like a wise bit of gaffitti once told me: rape the pope!
Excuse me for this everyone but this is really the first time I've ever been so angry here.
SHUT THE ==== UP!
Killing youself is selfish in almost every instance I can think of. It is the selfish, easy way out the cowards take because they think that they have nothing to live for. Saying you have control over your own life? If you ask me killing yourself shows that you give your own life and what it means to OTHERS absolutely NO VALUE.
Dr. Madd
01-30-2007, 03:50 AM
The Problem is, if we give the government the opportunity to protect us from ourselves here, where does it end?
MightForRight
01-30-2007, 06:26 PM
There is a difference between suicide, and turning off a machine that is keeping you "alive." I do not believe taking out a feeding tube is suicide if there is no chance of recovery. It is letting a person die naturally, which we should not be so afraid of as it happens to everyone at some point or another.
i_love_being_so_wicked
01-30-2007, 10:07 PM
Viper, I don't care what you say. We are all entitled to our own opinions so just go ahead and be angry. I am not going to let the government dictate my personal choices. That is not their job to be involved in my end of life decision making. The government's job is to protect our country and keep order. That is all.
Helen
11-28-2009, 05:01 PM
I would like to know what people think about a picture category for all to view.
Should there be a place to post pictures of your family, Self pictures and other random picture to share with other viewers?
Dr. Madd
11-28-2009, 11:17 PM
It is my opinion that the gov't should not protect us from ourselves. If we allow that, we are by default allowing them to take control over our fates. Not cool at all. But not Doctor assisted. Violation of Hippocratic Oath.
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