Civil Unioned with Children

[Oi_Ve]

Here's a simple question which should spur a bit of debate. Should homosexual or bisexual couples be allowed to raise children. Before you answer note these three points:

1.) Gays can have children through artificial (because some people will think I'm trying to hide something if I say 'in vitro') means

2.) Just because you're gay doesn't mean you can't have sex with a member of the opposite sex.

3.) Adoption.

Let's hear a few thoughts

[Android]

Ohhhhh, I'm gonna catch hell for this one.
Sure, let them raise Kids, lots of orphins that need good parents. It beats the hell out of us paying to raise them in some abusive home that is only looking for another check from the government..um... us.
I know you have all heard me go off about child molesters, more than once, Queers are not the dangerouse ones as far as being child molesters. Its the ones you dont know about but thats a different topic.
I'm sure the Aids thing will come up, as it should, but their are allot of straight parents with Aids due to drug use. Hmmmm.. drugs. Drugs are bad. :icon_frow
I know so many gay couples that are really good people, I really never worry about that, except for things we already discussed in early threads. (tax breaks-rights bla bla bla.) and them looking at my butt (cause I have a nice ass)

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[Wadi66]

Children require a stable environment which in turn requires a father and mother, male and female. Homes without one of those are more prone to producing disfunctional people. Not always obviously, but ususally. Likewise contentious families produce disfunctional people. Contrary to what feminists would have you believe, fathers are incredibly important in the life of a child. Children need mothers, not another "daddy".

Put the politics aside, look at the socialogical evidence. It isn't a question of being open minded or politically correct.

[Oi_Ve]

Children require a stable environment which in turn requires a father and mother, male and female. Homes without one of those are more prone to producing disfunctional people. Not always obviously, but ususally. Likewise contentious families produce disfunctional people. Contrary to what feminists would have you believe, fathers are incredibly important in the life of a child. Children need mothers, not another "daddy".

Put the politics aside, look at the socialogical evidence. It isn't a question of being open minded or politically correct.

true. but again, the evidence also shows that a child develops better in a homosexual home than in no home at all. What's your stance on orphaned children/children up for adoption?
And you bet your ass we're more needed than what feminists claim! Feminists are easily one of the most trying special intrest groups in existance.

[Wadi66]

true. but again, the evidence also shows that a child develops better in a homosexual home than in no home at all. What's your stance on orphaned children/children up for adoption?If the evidence supports it, then I'm okay with it.

[Peace_by_superior _power]

true. but again, the evidence also shows that a child develops better in a homosexual home than in no home at all. What's your stance on orphaned children/children up for adoption?
And you bet your ass we're more needed than what feminists claim! Feminists are easily one of the most trying special intrest groups in existance.

I want long term studies, and there cant be that many.

[Oi_Ve]

I could get you a study, but it only makes common sense. Find me a child without parents who wouldn't want to be adopted by a loving pair of adults, be they hetero or homo.
Children naturally want plutonic love. If they aren't recieving it from any other source, what's wrong with it coming from a gay or bisexual couple?

I myself am torn on the issue on gays having children. While I defend my stance of gays adopting, I just can't understand why they'd want to have a child themselves when that child would only be tormented or have to hide the truth in shame. On the other hand, a federal government saying that legal US citizens cannot have children, even if it is by an unnatural process............I dont think that rings well in anyone's bell tower...........think about it for a while if you dont understand why

[Wadi66]

I could get you a study, but it only makes common sense. Find me a child without parents who wouldn't want to be adopted by a loving pair of adults, be they hetero or homo. The issue of gays adopting children is pretty intense so it would be in your best interest to provide the study. The "common sense" argument just isn't going to cut it with this crowd.

[Argonath]

There is little to no problem for gays to have children. If anything, it will help the children's mental state in that they will feel less shy about their beliefs or personal standing on things, if the parents in question are open about their homosexuality. And, just like every other parent, they have the possibility of srewing up, and forcing their beliefs down the kids throat, and hopefully, the only thing they force dowb the kid's throat. I'm all for it, but there will be problems, just like in every other family. The kid may be persecuted by peers who think he's a freak, or the child will be emmbarased by their parents. But, these things should be expected. My brother's friend was adopted by lesbians, and right now, he's going to a good collage, don't know which, but, he's majoring in engineering, he's drug and alcohol free, including cigs, and he has never had a run-in with the law. But, his parents routinley fight with each other, my parents are the same. Hell, I used to go to sleep with my mom yelling at the top of her lungs, but these lesbians just have a little noise, and get over things. I doubt that there is really any horrible risk to the child from the parant. The risk, i think, would most likly come from a fanatic who hates gays, and threatens the kid, at the worst. And that's just my imagination! I find nothing wrong with it. hmm. . . now look what i've done. . . .