Bumblebee
09-08-2005, 11:54 PM
See if this works, it's a direct link to the video:
http://homepage.mac.com/onegoodmove/movies/bushflips.mov
No luck again, Madcowhunter. Maybe it's my PC. Didn't anyone else here try it and see if they got it? Isn't anyone else curious?
Cullinan
09-09-2005, 01:52 PM
I have to agree with Argo on his last comment. A group of Muslim people (who had not been linked to terrorist acts against the US...in fact to any nation I believe) were being tortured, murdered, and all the while the acts were given the title 'ethnic clensing' to hide what it really was; genocide. .
More Christians where being tortured than the Muslims, so it was ok for the Muslims to kill Christians but not the other way around?
Islam is not our enemy; radical islam is. Islam does not teach hate; radical islam teaches nothing but. Jihad does not mean holy war. it means inner struggle, the war within islam itself to find the correct successor to Muhammud.
All Muslims hate, Read the Koran, it says let's see.... 285 times to kill unbelievers, I constitute that as hatred.
Radical islam has twisted the word to mean war against all who don't think like them. Islam is not anti-christian, but in fact references characters from the Bible such the Arch Angel Gabriel (not the arch angel as in fallen angel, but the level of angel above regular angel, usually seen wearing some sort of armor)
Sure it mentions Gabriel,Michael, and Raphael,Azriel.....They want to go to war with the believer of the ArchAngels. The ArchAngels represent the enemies
Oi_Ve
09-09-2005, 03:17 PM
More Christians where being tortured than the Muslims, so it was ok for the Muslims to kill Christians but not the other way around?
There were no death camps set up just for Christians. There were for Muslims. Take it from the parent of a soldier who served there. The whole country was hell because of the greedy and wicked ideals of a madman. Muslims killed christians because christians were killing them, and the reason christians were killing them is because if they didn't Slobodan would have thrown them on the wagon to the local death camp as well. And Slobodon was going to keep killing Muslims, but at a slow rate so that the civil war in his nation would continue and his power would remain unchallenged.
All Muslims hate, Read the Koran, it says let's see.... 285 times to kill unbelievers, I constitute that as hatred.
The neighbor across the street is Muslim and my best friend. I go to his house every weekend and eat dinner with them. I've tutored his child, his wife has seen me off to work sometimes. Our families were together on 9/11. He keeps two copies of the Koran in his house. He handed them to me on that day and told me to look at a passage in both books. In one it said to kill unbelievers. The other one did not say anything along those lines. He took the good book and told me
"This is what we believe. Do not let anyone ever tell you different. The one's who think we listen to this (shaking the bad book) are liars or idiots. I keep it to show people the truth. But I pray with this book (good book)."
These people are Muslim. They pray five times everyday. They go to Mosque every week. They have been to Mecca. These people are devoted Muslims. Yet here I stand, a deist, as their best friend. They don't hate me, or anyone because they are of a different religion. Islam doesn't teach hate. I'd like to know where you got that number too.
Sure it mentions Gabriel,Michael, and Raphael,Azriel.....They want to go to war with the believer of the ArchAngels. The ArchAngels represent the enemies
Gabriel is the one who appears to Muhammud.....he nevers says anything about killing infidels. The Quran also refers to Moses and Noah and not in wicked terms. It speaks of abraham and tells his story.
What you're doing is no different to what islamic extremists do; feed off of people's ignorance and twist the truth about islam into a form which is convient for you.
Wadi66
09-09-2005, 10:23 PM
In April 1987, over 60,000 Serbs from Kosovo signed a petition calling on the government in Belgrade to stop the ethnic violence and intimidation aimed at them. In an opportunistic attempt to raise his political profile, then Serbian Communist Party president Slobodan Milosevic traveled to Kosovo and played the nationalist card, proclaiming to Serbs everywhere, "No one should dare beat you again," By October 1987, federal riot police and army troops were deployed in Kosovo following demonstrations by thousands of Serbs protesting an alleged comment by a Kosovar Albanian leader that "the incidents of [ethnic] Albanians raping Serbian women could be reduced if more Serbian women worked as prostitutes." In 1989, Belgrade downgraded Kosovo's autonomy to its pre-1974 level, and Milosevic was elected president of Serbia with 65 percent of the vote. As Aleksa Djilas later noted in Foreign Affairs, Milosevic "succeeded because he understood the power of fear and knew how to use it for his own purposes."
Following the reduction of Kosovo's autonomy, Belgrade imposed "emergency measures" in Kosovo, summarily dismissing thousands of ethnic Albanians from state-sector jobs. No part of Kosovo's society was left untouched. Even the provincial theater in Pristina was placed under "emergency management" and the theater manager removed by police officers and replaced by a Serb. The greatest changes, however, occurred in education. The teaching of Albanian history, literature, and language was reduced to a minimum. Also, ethnic Albanian students were forbidden from enrolling in secondary school unless they could pass Serbian literature and language examinations, which few could do.
In 1991, ethnic Albanians responded to their diminished autonomy by forming a shadow government, complete with a president, a parliament, a tax system, and schools. Shadow president Ibrahim Rugova thereafter worked for Kosovo's independence through peaceful means, but a more militant group soon emerged.
By the mid- I 990s, the ethnic Albanian population in Kosovo had grown to between 85 and 90 percent, and the human rights conditions in the province continued to deteriorate. As Human Rights Watch, a New York-based rights organization, reported,
Since the revocation of Kosovo's autonomy, the human rights abuses against ethnic Albanians by the Serbian and Yugoslav governments have been constant. The names of the victims change, but the frequency and the manner of beatings, harassment, and political trials remain the same. It is a status quo of repression, . . . The brutality of the police continues against the population. Random harassment and beatings are a daily reality for ethnic Albanians in Kosovo, especially those in villages and smaller towns.18
In 1996, a shadowy separatist organization called the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) surfaced for the first time, claiming responsibility for a series of bombings in Kosovo. By its own admission, the KLA killed more than 50 government officials and ethnic Albanian "collaborators" over the next two years. The KLA'S intention: to trigger the secession of Kosovo from the Yugoslav state. Pursuing a textbook strategy, the KLA carried out attacks on police and civilians aimed at provoking a government crackdown that would radicalize the ethnic Albanian population in Kosovo. In February 1998, the KLA intensified its attacks against Yugoslav authorities and Serb civilians. Armed KLA guerrillas attacked Serb houses in the villages of Klina, Decani, and Djakovica, and a Serb refugee camp in Babaloc. KLA guerrillas also ambushed and killed two Serb policemen patrolling on the road between Glogovac and Srbica.
A government crackdown on the KLA immediately followed, and the world soon learned that nearly 80 Kosovar Albanians, including many women and children, were killed by Serbian internal security forces in Kosovo's central Drenica region. The Yugoslav Interior Ministry claimed that the action was directed against Adem Jashari, whose family clan allegedly constituted the core of the KLA organization. On a closely supervised trip to the village of Prekaz, foreign reporters were told that government security forces had killed Jashari and destroyed the power base of the KLA organization. "We have struck at their heart and we have dealt terrorists a lethal blow," a police spokesman said. The spokesman was wrong. Government - versus - guerrilla clashes continued in Kosovo, leaving more than 2,000 dead over the ensuing 14 months.
For Serbs, Kosovo is widely considered the cradle of their culture, history, and religion. In fact, over 75 percent of all Serbian cultural and national monuments are located in Kosovo, including the historic fourteenth-century monastery of Samodrezi, where the Serbian king blessed his army just before their defeat at the hands of the Ottoman Turks in 1389 and the famous Kosovo Polje battlefield - the Serbian equivalent of the Alamo.
On the other side of the dispute, ethnic Albanians outnumbered Serbs in Kosovo nearly 9 to 1 before NATO's air strikes began on March 24, 1999, and representatives of the KLA have sworn that they will not stop fighting the Serbian government until they achieved the "total liberation" of the province.
Similarly, while ethnic Albanians from Kosovo were "always ready to tell sympathetic journalists an account of their suffering under the Serbian regime . . . foreign observers failed to notice that, although the Serbs were supposed to be the oppressors, they themselves were departing from Kosovo, complaining about the destruction of property, the desecration of graves, and many assaults and rapes."
Between 1941 and 1945, more than 70,000 Serbs fled Kosovo while 75,000 Albanians migrated there.
After World War II, Kosovo was returned to Serbia. But the new Yugoslav government under Josip Broz Tito hoped that the prospect of reacquiring Kosovo would draw Albania into the pact. Tito, therefore, wanted Kosovo to remain predominantly Albanian. On March 6, 1945, he issued a decree forbidding Serbs displaced by the war from returning to their homes in Kosovo.
The competing claims of Serbs and Albanians have been hopelessly tangled in the webs of history and myth. In its essence, however, the main issue is as simple as it is intractable. The Serbian claim ... is based primarily on the historical - cultural princi-pie - the Jerusalem argument. The Albanian claim to independence is based largely on the demographic principle - the majority argument. Since these claims are mutually incompatible, there is little reason to believe that Kosovo will be easy to solve
http://www.libertyhaven.com/theoreticalorphilosophicalissues/economics/economicissues/kosovo.shtml (http://www.libertyhaven.com/theoreticalorphilosophicalissues/economics/economicissues/kosovo.shtml)
Oi_Ve
09-09-2005, 11:23 PM
wait.....what were we talking about orginially again?
Cullinan
09-09-2005, 11:51 PM
To get back on track
What is going to happen to Sen. Mary Landrieu?
Well, down the road she will die, maybe natual causes, maybe cancer, maybe scurvy, who knows? She will be a side note in history as a biased bitch who couldn't look in the mirror and blame herself or her cronies that they ====ed up their state. She had to blame Bush and the Republicans, God I hope her death is painful
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