violent pig?

[therightman]

rightman, do you even know what you're saying? In one breath you say then you saythe problem is, if you're reading the amendment at all, you don't understand it. Neither the state nor the federal government can make laws that can abridge privileges. That means, neither have the authority to demand a license to marry or a license to have a civil union.
yeh, they dont.then why are civil union licenses being out lawd?

[Wadi66]

yeh, they dont.then why are civil union licenses being out lawd?go back to my original post, its #10. Here's the first two lines
And this is the price you pay for allowing the government any control over your life. Government has no constitutional right to require a marriage license from anyone. Marriages and civil unions are a big issue right now. Why, because people sat back and watched as the feds moved in, dictating "for the general welfare" their lives or the lives of others. Actually its more like dictating what "others" can and can not do, we never stop and realize our lives are being governed. So if you're going to allow the fed govt to violate the constitution, don't use the constitution as a protector. It stopped protecting you the minute you gave the feds authority. So.... because you have given the feds the authority to legislate your life, they can legislate disallowing gays to marry or have a civil union. What's stopping the feds from doing that? Certainly not our constitution.

[therightman]

that doesnt jusity it.

"So we agree with King and his fight for black American civil rights.but not their counterparts who have moved in the wrong direction, who have alterd his dream.but where i stand on the other side of the fence to my fellow money hungry right wingers is with gay civil unions.King dream has not been realised, we only take from it the things we like.As blood thirsty patriots it is our duty to stand up for this rights which have be stolen form our people and to judge persons not on skin color/sex/sexuality but on the content of their character.We must do what is right."

[believer]

Malcom X may have had some racism, but was it "hate"? ( If so, it was a righteous hate, justified in my book) I think maybe he had a genuine pride and was probably the only black American rolemodel / leader with any REAL chance of bringing about a positive change for his peoples. Shame that the nation of islam was the message, but still, nobody else has come forth with such a caring, strong message for the black American that empowers them, boosts their esteem, enables accountability while asking people to grab ahold of their balls and BE something, dammit. This tripe that our criminal liberal government is trying to cram down our throats; PC mandated diversity / tolerance crap as a substitute for pride and respect and dignity serves only to make a joke of an entire race, stir up resentment toward it's victim, sets us all back half a century. I hate the folly of our government's interventions. Great men are painted ugly and villified while filthy useless criminals are propped up as saints. Our own government has systematically worked to keep the bruthah down, got them keepin' themselves down, by denying them the strong mind that would come from the self esteem which they've been denied. Not by us! By our government, which coddles the black people as though they ARE less than whitey, protects and favors them as if they need it... a black child growing up in this environment has WHAT hope of learning otherwise of themself? Yea, I hate...not people, but the criminal idiotic diorrhea that eminates from Washington.

I couldn't care one fart about ghandi. The idea that any one person alone with but their words of "wisdom" can make any difference is preposterous. (remember; Jesus tried this) The people they preach to must be ready to MAKE things change for themselves. They must be willing to fight for their own personal liberty and dignity. If you have right on your side, you can beat ANY enemy. Sure... it don't hurt sometimes to have guns and bombs on your side, either. But "peaceful protest"? How 'bout I start kicking Ghandi...(HARD); he would probably wish that I discontinue. How would he best realize this? "I am most unbelieveable! - you are not have this size 13 boot for to only kick your fellow man?" Oh, aint he dead or something? never mind.

[therightman]

I couldn't care one fart about ghandi. The idea that any one person alone with but their words of "wisdom" can make any difference is preposterous. (remember; Jesus tried this) The people they preach to must be ready to MAKE things change for themselves. They must be willing to fight for their own personal liberty and dignity. If you have right on your side, you can beat ANY enemy. Sure... it don't hurt sometimes to have guns and bombs on your side, either. But "peaceful protest"? How 'bout I start kicking Ghandi...(HARD); he would probably wish that I discontinue. How would he best realize this? "I am most unbelieveable! - you are not have this size 13 boot for to only kick your fellow man?" Oh, aint he dead or something? never mind.
i agree that there must be people behind them.people talk about many revolutions, going on about great leaders.but in all these movements there were a lot of people working, peoples names who most people will probably never know.like with King.also with Gandhi.Neither were tales of one man taking on the world.what im asking about is weather you liked these mens ideas of non-violence.im sorry but i dont understand your point against peaceful protest.

[Wadi66]

that doesnt jusity it.what are you referring to??

[therightman]

civil unions being otulawd in 8 of the 11 states that gay marriages were outlawd.

[Peace_by_superior _power]

I think equality is great when you keep it at what its suposed to be. If everyone is equal then we dont see in color... no discrimination no affrmative action.

[Wadi66]

civil unions being otulawd in 8 of the 11 states that gay marriages were outlawd.Whether its fair or not, justified or not, isn't a consideration. Basically Americans have given and continue to give the Fed's full authority to pass whatever legislation they want. You may not like it, but you have nothing on which to base your complaint other than it isn't fair or justified.

[therightman]

ok.so it is a consideration to not give people their rights?remember every revolution they made was once considerd an enemy.

and when everyone considerd the world to be flat?was it right?this is where we must look away from the group mentality and realise what is just and wat is not.equality's your trip when all your friends agree, but freedom's just not hip when it's of sexuality, so you hate. i hope i live to see the day when your sexually repressed hatred is finally washed out. it seems that you're trying to prove it to yourself--build up those defences, you're just like everybody else. you wave your fist like you wave your f**king flag and you'll prove it to me now: you're no '==='.THE PEOPLE CANT LIVE IN THESE FLAMES?????????????????????????????????????????AHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TAKE YOUR RIGHTS BACK!!!!!!!!STAND THE F**K UP!!!!!!

[Wadi66]

You seem to be ranting in frustration.


ok.so it is a consideration to not give people their rights? Rights according to whom?


i hope i live to see the day when your sexually repressed hatred is finally washed out. it seems that you're trying to prove it to yourself--build up those defences, you're just like everybody else. you wave your fist like you wave your *ucking flag and you'll prove it to me now: Every once in a while someone will make a post that makes sense only to them. This is one of those times. If you're suggesting that I have some "sexually repressed hatred", you couldn't be further from the truth. I'm trying to explain why the Fed govt can pass any damn piece of legislation they want. Somehow, I don't think you're grasping why.

I'm curious. Does the "your" flag mean you aren't in the U.S.?

[Mr. Glass]

Anyone see the reparations episodeof the Chapelle show? It was a riot.... things would probably turn out that way too... dudes blowing all their reparations money on gold teeth and 40s...

lol

anyways back to your regularly schedualed debate

[rightwingxtremist]

Heyyyyyy what happened to therightman?

- N

[Wadi66]

He did something that got him in big big big trouble. Say bye bye.

[rightwingxtremist]

He did something that got him in big big big trouble. Say bye bye.

Interesting... I'm guessing that he did something non-post related? I know he had a few bleeped-out F words in his last post, but that isn't the first time I've seen that here... Oh well.

Either way, this forum rocks.

- N

[Oi_Ve]

I'm curious as just how old the writer of that King article really is, and if they are old enough to have seen King himself, I doubt they actually did. The 50's where easily the most hypocritical times in American history. Anyone who lived those years, who watched some of the shit that happened in the South, in the nation period, in person, would think differently. King was not a moral character, you didn't need a PhD at the time to see that. About the only glorified person in history who didnt have skeletons in his closet was washington. However, any feelings of communism king held were, in my view, justified, as well his anti-american feelings. America for blacks was not america, and I truely believe that King would not have felt the same way he did had he grown up with equal treatment. Do I think he is over glorified? most definitely. But the truth is that he did go to those protests, he did stand up. Motivations aside, he did do the right thing and in the proper manner. Same goes for Ghandi. We can all sit around and bash these men for their faults, but the fact is that it's not fair or right to look at history from a retro-perspective. It's easy to criticize history we often were never a part of but history must be viewed from the eyes of the people who lived it. That's why yankee's (northerners who mock people because of their southern heritage and try to force their opinions and ways on us) will never understand the confederate army and the reason it went to war