Terrorist blast in London

[Avid_Liberal_Hater]

Bring our enemies to justice, or bring justice to our enemies.


http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/london.tube/index.html


U.S. sources say at least 40 dead.

[IHL]

I wonder how long it will be before the liberals start saying that London asked for it and that they deserved the attacks.

Trust me, it will happen.

[deek]

I'm not sure about that...I just find it hard to believe that they would say that about another country...if it happened here again, then of course, but it didn't. I'm not sure what they will do.

[riddle]

I wonder how long it will be before the liberals start saying that London asked for it and that they deserved the attacks.

Trust me, it will happen.


As sad as this tragedy may be, at least the liberal minded people in Europe will have yet another chance to wake up and realize that it is US against THEM. It is those who love freedom against those who seek to take it away. It is sad that such an event needs to take place before action is taken. Though tragic this attack may be (innocent civilians died and I doubt even one military personel was hurt), it will at least tell the rest of the world that these people seeking "jihad" are not just after America. They are out to get all of us for being the light in the storm. They hate our freedoms and despise their own lives, so they claim "jihad" on innocent people to "prove some point" that leads to no reasonable conclusion. Like communism, they are the anti-thesis to our God given freedoms.

[chi1088]

I wonder how long it will be before the liberals start saying that London asked for it and that they deserved the attacks.

Trust me, it will happen.

Wow...that came fast.

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I can say whatever I want without being censored. But I woke up this morning to a phone call from my grandma that informed me of what happened. I immediately turned the TV on and circulated between CNN, FOX News, and MSNBC. I mostly watched FOX News because they had SKY News on and they are from London so I figured that's where I could get the best details. Kudos to FOX for that. I also watched ITN on CNN, which also is in CNN. I then came here and updated my site and I have circulating telling people to pray for London because the struggle they now face is "How are they going to get home?" The trains are not going to run in the evening. The buses may but that's not enough to fix the problem. Many people are having to stay with friends because they can't get home.

London did not deserve this. No liberal has the right to say that. And if I hear it, you can bet that they will hear a response from me.

[Avid_Liberal_Hater]

I wonder how long it will be before the liberals start saying that London asked for it and that they deserved the attacks.

Trust me, it will happen.

I perused over to DU, and they've (predictably) completely politicized it and turned the terrorist bombing in to a platform to rail against Bush. Pathetic, really, that that's their gut reaction.

I'm sure Bush had prior information and let it happen. Right, Howard Dean?

[chi1088]

I perused over to DU, and they've (predictably) completely politicized it and turned the terrorist bombing in to a platform to rail against Bush. Pathetic, really, that that's their gut reaction.

I'm sure Bush had prior information and let it happen. Right, Howard Dean?

I'm on a thread right now over at DU. Most are of this nature.

But these people are going off previous events like the war in Iraq and the Downing Street Memo where they were or felt "betrayed". Some of these people are struggling to find members of families if you read their posts. I saw one about a sister missing. And at the same time, all this political mumbo jumbo is running through their head. But you see, it's comments like IHL's that immediately facilitate polarization. They create divides. You blame DU liberals for posting ignorant caught-in-the-moment remarks. But you say stuff like "no one's going to mess with us...all islam people must die", etc. And this would be a caught-in-the-moment remark. And I am not going to hold a conservative person accountable during the first few hours for a remark like this that comes out of frustration. It'd be nice if you did the same to DU and waited to jump on liberals.

All people want is to be safe and want to feel protected. And when these normal regular people that appear on DU read that Bush has done criminal things and they read about Downing Street Memo, they make the mistake of not researching it further and start making crazy conspiracy theories. I get my views from books but I probably more leisure time than most people so they make their political conclusions quickly. Liberals and conservatives want the same thing they just have different ideas of how to get it done.

I don't think anyone should be belittling anyone yet. We still should be hoping that Londoners are able to make it home since transportation has come to a standstill.

[All American Kid]

God Bless the citizens of Britian. They have really been our only true allied here of late. So wacthing Blair's statment this morning I must say I was proud to see my president right behind him with a genuine expression of concern and intense sadness.

Like serveral have pointed out it is sickening that the blame America first crowd will soon be chiming in. Remember Dean blamming Bush for the Madrid bombings?? We will need to roll up our sleeves to fight this kind of terrorism some will never understand that.

Pray and remember the people of the UK today. --AAK

[Avid_Liberal_Hater]

"no one's going to mess with us...all islam people must die", etc. And this would be a caught-in-the-moment remark. And I am not going to hold a conservative person accountable during the first few hours for a remark like this that comes out of frustration. It'd be nice if you did the same to DU and waited to jump on liberals.

I don't recall anyone saying anything about killing all the muslims. Could you direct me to that?

And I will not wait to jump on liberals. Liberals will blame American in the first minutes, hours, days and years after a terrorist attack. So what does it matter if we jump on them now, or later. They certainly don't waste any time attacking us.

Libs like to say things like 'if Bush hadn't bombed Iraq, this would have never happened'. How's this: if England had never allowed Muslim's to live in their country in the first place, this would have never happened?

[chi1088]

I don't recall anyone saying anything about killing all the muslims. Could you direct me to that?

And I will not wait to jump on liberals. Liberals will blame American in the first minutes, hours, days and years after a terrorist attack. So what does it matter if we jump on them now, or later. They certainly don't waste any time attacking us.

Libs like to say things like 'if Bush hadn't bombed Iraq, this would have never happened'. How's this: if England had never allowed Muslim's to live in their country in the first place, this would have never happened?

How about no, Liberal_Hater? My comment was like something people would say when they hear of the attacks. I wasn't specifically pointing at any person on this site. But no doubt in anger there are many who are saying we must never stop ...we must continue to hunt these people down...we should take out all people of Islam cause they are evil. These people are upset, frustrated, and are caught in the moment. If they stop and think and give it time, they may realize that we can't just start wiping out all people of Islam.

I don't much care what you do. Your user name alerts me to the fact that you won't take no shit from any liberal. Go on with your bad self, Avid.

[Madcowhunter]

33 have been confirmed dead. The worst attack on London since WWII.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8492258/

[IHL]

London did not deserve this. No liberal has the right to say that. And if I hear it, you can bet that they will hear a response from me. "Terrorism is a result of this war." - Barbara Boxer

Boxer is saying that terrorism exists because we (and that included Britain) went to war in Iraq. Extrapolate from that. If we hadn't gone to war, terrorism would not have resulted. Therefore, we brought this on ourselves. Boxer is flat out saying that we caused terrorism. No two ways around it 'terrorism is a result of this war'. Can't get in more plain than that. Boxer has just justified terrorism.

You must be so proud of your liberal leaders.

[chi1088]

"Terrorism is a result of this war." - Barbara Boxer

Boxer is saying that terrorism exists because we (and that included Britain) went to war in Iraq. Extrapolate from that. If we hadn't gone to war, terrorism would not have resulted. Therefore, we brought this on ourselves. Boxer is flat out saying that we caused terrorism. No two ways around it 'terrorism is a result of this war'. Can't get in more plain than that. Boxer has just justified terrorism.

You must be so proud of your liberal leaders.

This war has caused terrorism. She's not saying London deserved the attacks. It's terrible that this has to happen. But our invasion of Iraq brought increased terrorism to Iraq. Our waging war against terrorism gives terrorists something to attack. That's why they go after Madrid and now London. (Of course, that goes with saying that the people who attacked London were related to al-Qaeda. There's no official word or I have received no official word of who really is responsible. Nothing has been made official.) But we are at war. This terrorist attack is part of a war. If we are going to attack them, the international community has to expect to take hits like this.

[Bumblebee]

Yeah right, Chi. terrorists have been attacking us for over twenty years, what are we suppose to do, invite them for dinner?

[IHL]

Chi, don't ever try telling me you aren't a liberal. You are a flaming liberal. You are as bad as Boxer.

Sure, there are terror attacks since the war in Iraq started, but leave it to the traitorous liberals to say it is because of us.

What about the previous attack on the WTC? Or our embassies, or Mogadishu? Our fault too? No war in Iraq then.

I know Chi. It's all our fault. We are a terrible nation. We cause terrorism. We don't give enough aid to Africa. Our president is a war criminal. I think you should move.

[Avid_Liberal_Hater]

It shows the world once again,that muslims don`t have any kind of allegiance to the country that has given them shelter,freedom and citizenship.
They are only comitted to islam and everything else doesn`t matter.
They are ready to betray,to lie,to steal and to kill their hosts and subjugate the country that was generous enough to accept them.
Big mistake in granting citizenship to these people;the citizenship should at least be conditional and revocable,immediat deportation should be implemented in such cases.
All the terrorists that were arrested should be immedialtely transfered to Guantanamo Bay ,interogated and deported to the country of origin or to a muslim country ,with no possibility of ever returning to any western country.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/001343.php

Britain's been putting up with these people for too long.

[chi1088]

I know Chi. It's all our fault. We are a terrible nation. We cause terrorism. We don't give enough aid to Africa. Our president is a war criminal. I think you should move.

We didn't cause terrorism. Terrorism has been around for a long time. The Boxer Rebellion (http://www.jonathanturley.com/Articles/The_Boxer_rebellion.htm) happened. That was about one hundred years ago.

We caused terrorism to increase. It didn't come into being because of us since it has existed before.

[Douglas Adams]

I think you guys have your timeline off....it was terrorism, then war, not the other way around.

I'm trying to be optiistic here in that this will open the worlds eyes and show them that this enemy is not just the U.S. enemy, but the free world's enemy. My logical side is agreeing with IHL.

Pray for Britain. They need it more than ever...but remember, pray for the enemy also, that is what Jesus taught.

[HOKIEHUNTER]

If we are going to attack them, the international community has to expect to take hits like this.


Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't attacking non-combatants during wartime against Geneva Convention rules? If these attacks are a direct response to the war in Iraq, then they are most definetly illegal, against a WORLD STANDARD, and the every member the agreed to the Geneva Convention needs to take up arms against these foes. Is that gonna happen? NO! Why? Because the world is stupid and two-faced. There is no world pressure to stop the beheadings of our POW's. The only groups responding are the ones doing the fighting. the TERRORISTS have been scaring other countries out of IRAQ and afghanistan by commiting domestic terrorism and they have been totally successful up to this point. Hopefully instead of running scared, the British people will call on europe to unite and kick some al quada ass. A novel, but unlikely idea.


There's no official word or I have received no official word of who really is responsible.i personally think it's the damn lepricons. Those little bastards hate the british, stealin all their gold. Worse than the scottish. I'll give you 2 guesses to who is responsible. what other group suicide attacks? if it wasn't al queada it was some other islamic fundamentalist group.

[Madcowhunter]

Tony Blair thinks it's Islamic terrorists. I doubt it's the IRA (Irish Republican Army), that long conflict is based in Ireland.

[Madcowhunter]

Update: 37 confirmed dead, over 700 wounded. The IRA has been known to target British soldiers in Ireland, not any non-combatants that I've heard of.

[chi1088]

There is no world pressure to stop the beheadings of our POW's. The only groups responding are the ones doing the fighting.

There's no world pressure to stop using SERE tactics on detainees. Those tactics are fine if we want to use them to toughen up our soldiers so if they get into an interrogation situation, they don't break down. But when we do these awful things to people on Guantanamo Bay, we're asking for some beheadings to happen. We're giving them a reason for retaliation.

[Brosio]

Wow Chi, I had to register to this site just for you :icon_roll

Your point of view sincerely frightens me and the safety of my Children.

Here is some warm, cuddly, hot cup of tea, down comforter reading for you tonight as you dream of daisy filled meadows and campfire songs.

Al Qaeda Training Manuel seized in London (http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm)

Sweet Dreams :icon_wink

[thumbelina]

But when we do these awful things to people on Guantanamo Bay... Don't you mean Club Gitmo (http://www.ihateliberals.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=1309&highlight=Guantanamo)? Also, Inside the Wire at Gitmo (http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,1071230,00.html), be sure to read the "tortures": Invasion of Space by Female; A 24-Hour Time Out; or Playing Christina Aguilera Music. Ahhh... the horror :icon_eek:
Side note: (http://mightyrighty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35858&postcount=1) fewer people have died at Gitmo than in the passenger seat of Ted Kennedy's car. Gitmo is hardly a Gulag.

[chi1088]

Heard it. Try telling me that in a new or different way because the first time I heard it, it had no chance of changing my mind.

Now as for me...I added the acronym SERE to my argument that we are mistreating prisoners. Does that mean anything to anyone here?