Durbin Compares US Soldiers to Nazis, KGB, Pol Pot

[owl_the_beatnik]

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16237_Durbin_Compares_US_Soldiers_to_Nazis_ KGB_Pol_Pot&only





"You would most certainly believe that this had happened by Nazis, Soviets in their Gulags or some mad regime, Pol Pot and others, that had no concern for human beings." -- Dick Durbin, on the alleged mistreatment of prisoners at Guantanamo.

[FightinDaMan]

dick durbin?

[owl_the_beatnik]

dick durbin?


If you don't know, Sen. Durbin is a Senator from Illinois who is beyond a left wing liberal. He a major player of the democrats. That Durbin continues to "serve" as a Senator is an abomination and an incredibly poor reflection on the State of Illinois. He states that Dean's outrageous comments are the Republicans' fault!

"Though he is a hard worker, Durbin is also bland, dull, and his mind is unburdened by original thought. He seems to be more guided by the polls than anything resembling a political philosophy ... He is the Rodney Dangerfield of the Senate. Durbin is without relevance and gets no respect." Steve Neal, Chicago Sun-Times columnist, July, 2003."



http://dumpdickdurbin.blogspot.com/

I know this is a blog but it is a good source

[Bumblebee]

I heard about this on michael reagan as I was coming home. GOD! This makes me soo mad, hearing this Capital Hill blowhards compare our soldiers, the people who DEFEND their asses, to NAZIS! Its insanity! How long are we as a country going to allow these pencil pushers to demean our armed forces!? HOW LONG!? At what point did insulting the very people who defend your freedoms become a way to get votes! :mad: :mad:
I got just as mad as you did. :mad: :mad:
I console myself by knowing that we will keep on winning in future elections because of their un-American outbursts.

[ryguy1up]

Thank You.... I Agree... Read Mine At 'sorry Oops'

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

I remember the furor over Trent Lotts comments to Strom Thurmond.

I remember the Leftwing crackheads wigging out and demanding he step down.

Lott's comments look like baby food compared to the 'Dick's', yet when someone demands he appolgise, this piece of shit retorts "Bush should appologise"

FDM, you ok with this?

[Avid_Liberal_Hater]

I remember the furor over Trent Lotts comments to Strom Thurmond.

I made a point about that ealier. When Hillary made prejudiced remarks about Ghandi running a convenience store, the media gave her a free pass.

[owl_the_beatnik]

Liberals always get a free pass....Conservative have never been given a free pass.

[owl_the_beatnik]

The Senators phones are all jammed .... email him www.dick@durbin.senate.org at let him hear your voice

[owl_the_beatnik]

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8322
By George Neumayr
Published 6/17/2005 12:09:49 AM


If Terri Schiavo had been dehydrated to death at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp, Dick Durbin would be reading her autopsy report from the Senate floor. It would be an occasion for great moral anguish. How did the U.S. sink so low as to adopt such Nazi-like callousness toward disabled prisoners of war? one could imagine him saying. Instead, Democrats -- even as they spent part of the week crassly celebrating, with news of Schiavo's autopsy report in hand, the human rights abuse of euthanasia against the disabled -- are in a moral lather over the paucity of proper air conditioning terrorists receive at Guantanamo Bay.

[owl_the_beatnik]

Just another point, the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay do not have rights that are referred to the articles of the Third Geneva Convention.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

I emailed the idiot.


Who else did?

[teens4bush]

I am going to now.

[teens4bush]

Does anybody know why the email adress does not work? (Durbin)

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

I just noticed that. The email did look odd

I just did a search for "contact senator durbin"

3 pages came up, all from his personal senate website, and NONE OF THEM WORK.......I wonder why? :icon_twis

[owl_the_beatnik]

Here is one...Every prison is Illinois is not air conditioned. Since Dick is a Senator from Illinois why doesn't he complain about that?

[owl_the_beatnik]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050618/ap_on_go_co/guantanamo_durbin;_ylt=AjC.sQOCJllfslZy1.ge6n.yFz4 D;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
By REBECCA CARROLL, Associated Press Writer



On Friday, Durbin tried to clarify the issue. "My statement in the Senate was critical of the policies of this Administration, which add to the risk our soldiers face," he said in a statement released Friday afternoon. "I have learned from my statement that historical parallels can be misused and misunderstood. I sincerely regret if what I said caused anyone to misunderstand my true feelings: Our soldiers around the world and their families at home deserve our respect, admiration and total support."


Great, so it's the republicans fault that Sen.Dick said those nasty things

[chi1088]

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16237_Durbin_Compares_US_Soldiers_to_Nazis_ KGB_Pol_Pot&only

Durbin is not comparing US Soldiers to Nazis, KGB, or Pol Pot at all. He is specifically talking about the way we treat prisoners. Logically, "Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime—Pol Pot or others—that had no concern for human beings" would treat their prisoners like they had no rights. "Enemy combatants" or prisoners at Gitmo have no rights. Durbin gives a fair comparison and a good representation of the truth. "Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime—Pol Pot or others—that had no concern for human beings" did things that created stories of mistreatment that humans dreaded hearing because they ran prisons where prisoners had no rights. Likewise, if we run a prison where prisoners have no rights or are labeled "enemy combatants", the kinds of stories we heard from "Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime—Pol Pot or others—that had no concern for human beings" will be heard or read.

[Wadi66]

Durbin is not comparing US Soldiers to Nazis, KGB, or Pol Pot at all. He is specifically talking about the way we treat prisoners. Logically, "Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime—Pol Pot or others—that had no concern for human beings" would treat their prisoners like they had no rights. "Enemy combatants" or prisoners at Gitmo have no rights. Durbin gives a fair comparison and a good representation of the truth. "Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime—Pol Pot or others—that had no concern for human beings" did things that created stories of mistreatment that humans dreaded hearing because they ran prisons where prisoners had no rights. Likewise, if we run a prison where prisoners have no rights or are labeled "enemy combatants", the kinds of stories we heard from "Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime—Pol Pot or others—that had no concern for human beings" will be heard or read.NO RIGHTS? So being furnished mats upon which to kneel for prayer constitutes "no rights?". Having a mark painted on the floor pointing east so that they know their facing the right direction constitutes "no rights"?. Having food prepared according to their religous standards constitutes "no rights"? And what happens to them when they throw urine or fecal matter at our troops on guard.... nothing. If they had "no rights" Chi, that behavior would land them in a grave. They attack our troops at every opportunity, yet you say they have "no rights". Someone is playing you like a fiddle, cause you're singing their tune.

[Wadi66]

Durbin is a pile of dung. When challenged on the floor of the Senate to offer an apology, he refused. Now he comes out with this half a$$ explanation. Typical liberal. The man needs to be charged and convicted of treason.

PS:.... I have combined two threads

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

Durbin gives a fair comparison and a good representation of the truth. "Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime—Pol Pot or others—that had no concern for human beings" did things that created stories of mistreatment

What a blithering idiot.

You might be a liberal if:

You consider the massacre of one million people to be 'mistreatment'

You consider the mass murder by gas chamber of 3 000 000 people mistreatment

You consider the death of a couple million Russians who were worked to death, mistreatment

You believe that the activities at Gitmo are the same as what happened at the above mentioned places.

Every time the Chiapet opens his yap, he makes me want to shove his head up his ass

[chi1088]

Wadi, I guess Bush is. Let me know if I am wrong. Bush has said prisoners at Gitmo have no rights and are "enemy combatants". So maybe guards aren't following the president's orders properly. I don't know. I'm not going to pass judgment on Gitmo because when I do, I get it wrong. It seems like such a dirty messed up place. I keep trying to think it's not.

[Wadi66]

Wadi, I guess Bush is. Let me know if I am wrong. Bush has said prisoners at Gitmo have no rights and are "enemy combatants". So maybe guards aren't following the president's orders properly. I don't know. I'm not going to pass judgment on Gitmo because when I do, I get it wrong. It seems like such a dirty messed up place. I keep trying to think it's not.I've heard him say they are enemy combatants but I haven't heard him say they have no rights. Can you provide a link for that?

What do you mean the guards aren't following orders properly??? I don't follow you there.

[chi1088]

What a blithering idiot.

Says the man with the purple gyrating hippo.


You might be a liberal if:

Ooh ooh...I love this game. Umm, if you think celebs aren't Satan in disguise. Umm, if you think purple gyrating hippos are evil. Umm, if you think people should all get government hand outs. Umm...


You consider the massacre of one million people to be 'mistreatment'

You can't deny that massacring people is mistreating people.



You consider the mass murder by gas chamber of 3 000 000 people mistreatment

Nope, must not be liberal. Hey, didn't America use to put people in gas chambers? Texas...or...



You consider the death of a couple million Russians who were worked to death, mistreatment

Yep. You see nobody killed them directly. It was all indirect. This may be hard to understand. But let's say I come over and get you and put you in a big ass box out in the middle of the desert and tell you to weave baskets. You will die from the heat. But not from me. I will be responsible for locking you in the box. But I didn't kill you with a gun or anything so what I think this is what we call...involuntary manslaughter, which also can be referred to as mistreatment. All mistreatment is the act of treating a person badly. Not sure if I am right? Here's a definition (http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m011.htm) to help you.



You believe that the activities at Gitmo are the same as what happened at the above mentioned places.

Gee, I know it's rough trying to grasp the idea that we may have mistreated prisoners. Drink some water and don't stand too much. The pain will go away soon.


Everytime
the Chiapet opens his yap, he makes me want to shove his head up his ass

Hey, I got a drug that can help you out.

It's called "Fukitol". Brought to you by Liberals and specially made for Conservatives like you who can't handle our inquisitive nature.

[chi1088]

I've heard him say they are enemy combatants but I haven't heard him say they have no rights. Can you provide a link for that?

What do you mean the guards aren't following orders properly??? I don't follow you there.

What's your definition of having no rights? I think every person should be treated humanely. Humane treatment of prisoners is something that we like our enemies to uphold for our prisoners so let's uphold it for them. By rights though, enemy combatants are not being charged with anything. Now this is what I know. They have no crime. They are not being put on trial. They are just in captivity. Prisoners have no rights. The only right they have is to be treated humanely.

Ignore that part about the guards not following orders. I was saying that if Bush or Rumsfeld had said they have no rights than people at Gitmo aren't following orders since you said that the prisoner had been getting rights. You caught me. I have no quote. I have nothing to prove that Bush has said they have no rights. If I do, I will post it. Until then, all I have is theory. All prisoners have no rights but should be treated humanely.