"Incoherent" Policy with N. Korea

[chi1088]

Bush and North Korea (http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200506/kt2005061519051753460.htm)

[Wadi66]

Chi, everyone in their right mind expects solutions. Unfortunately, the powers that be aren't in their right minds, therefore solutions are never going to be found. There is a reason nothing changes, or if it does, it just gets worse.

[chi1088]

Right now, I want a stalemate to continue until Bush is out of office. That is the best America can hope for.

[chi1088]

Believe it or not Master Chief, I would support measures like that.

[HOKIEHUNTER]

yet liberals critcize the hell outta the US for enacting similar programs in Iraq. Shut down all ties and the ability to have ties with N. Korea (i.e. shut down all trade - a good old fashion siege) until the N. Koreans rise up against their whacko leader.

[owl_the_beatnik]

Remember it was the liberals i.e. Clinton and Carter that gave N.Korea weapons, nuclear weapons and money to fund the advancing of weapons.
So don't bash Bush, bash the noble peace prize winner and the patholgical liar and adulteur.

[FightinDaMan]

N. Korea is a major threat to United States security. We should not be negotiating with them, we should be kicking their asses. I'm sorry, theres a time for diplomacy and a time for action, and thi is the time fr action. Maybe not military, but sanctions, trade cutoffs, cutoff of funding, etc. Wanna bet their economy would collapse and they'll be begging to give us their nukes.


North Korea has no economy, and it has nothing to bomb either. Trade sanctions wouldn't do much since it's imports and exports are relatively minor.

Cutting off aid wouldn't matter either. Kim doesn't need the money. He's got enough to stay fat and happy and slowly build up his forces.

[chi1088]

That's true, FDM. For the record, I think Kim Jong-Il is scarier than Saddam.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

Kim Jung Il, is nothing to worry about.

He relies on archaic Communist Military doctrine, they have yet to hit any target with their missiles, and their 'million man army' wil be vaporised the instant they step on to the DMZ.

All the little twerp is trying to is to extort more money out of the US with out giving anything back.

He knows, as does the rest of the world, that America's 'Achillies Heal' is it's public opinion. So if he can sway public opinion against Bush (as is apparent he's done to Chi already), he will get what he wants.

So Chi, what's it feel like to know that you've been manipulated by a foreign power?

[chi1088]

Better to be manipulated by a foreign power than one's own government.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

That has to be the dumbest statement on the face of this earth.

would you care to justify that statement?

[chi1088]

would you care to justify that statement?

I'm a liberal. I don't have to justify anything.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

I'm a liberal. I don't have to justify anything.

Translation: No, I can't!

[chi1088]

It wouldn't matter if I could. You're role in this forum ever since Day 1 was harass the political nonsense out of Chia Pet. You wouldn't buy it if I could prove it. And you know what, I can ignore dumbasses like you. Not through the feature that IHL gives but through myself. You're literally a waste of my time. So just keep on with the insults. But I am not going to read any of your garbage postings.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

It wouldn't matter if I could. You're role in this forum ever since Day 1 was harass the political nonsense out of Chia Pet. You wouldn't buy it if I could prove it.

You'd be supprised. Although, all you ever have done is stick with the leftwing talking points. You don't think for your self, and you sure as hell are not original.

The day you start debating reasonably; like conceding that Dick Durbin is so full of shit regarding his comparisons between, Gulags/Death Camps/The Killing Fields and Gitmo, is the day you'll notice a shift.

Actions like the above: Your support of Durbin, deserves nothing more than contempt.


And you know what, I can ignore dumbasses like you. Not through the feature that IHL gives but through myself. You're literally a waste of my time.

The reality is that you have no arguement. Every arguement you present is so full of holes it can be used as a colander.

THAT'S the reason you don't answer. That's the reason you CAN'T ANSWER.


So just keep on with the insults. But I am not going to read any of your garbage postings.

Awwwww poor ikle Chia Pet, his ickle sensibilities are hurt. Wait how can that be, he has no sensibilities.

Get over your self. You're a poot debater and nothing more than a puppet on a string.

[owl_the_beatnik]

Do any liberals make any sense when arguing? NO, liberals can't debate then they get mad and start to name call and if they don't like the facts they pick up their balls and leave. Liberals just drop the ball on every subject. They can't comprehend the America's needs and wants system

[chi1088]

You'd be supprised. Although, all you ever have done is stick with the leftwing talking points. You don't think for your self, and you sure as hell are not original.

The day you start debating reasonably; like conceding that Dick Durbin is so full of shit regarding his comparisons between, Gulags/Death Camps/The Killing Fields and Gitmo, is the day you'll notice a shift.

Actions like the above: Your support of Durbin, deserves nothing more than contempt.



The reality is that you have no arguement. Every arguement you present is so full of holes it can be used as a colander.

THAT'S the reason you don't answer. That's the reason you CAN'T ANSWER.



Awwwww poor ikle Chia Pet, his ickle sensibilities are hurt. Wait how can that be, he has no sensibilities.

Get over your self. You're a poot debater and nothing more than a puppet on a string.

Really? How come people will post stuff like, "I miss chi. He used to create debate and make this place interesting."?

[chi1088]

Do any liberals make any sense when arguing? NO, liberals can't debate then they get mad and start to name call and if they don't like the facts they pick up their balls and leave.

Liberals get mad and start to name call? Well what about conservatives?

WhiteAfricanAmerican called me ChiaPet before I started screwing with his name when posting in quotes. I followed suit because you conservatives were doing it and this is a conservative website. ChiaPet is name calling. And a liberal did not come up with that name. It was WhiteAfricanAmerican.

Click here to see an example of just one of the many times DoubleU has his posts removed for name calling or personal attacks (http://www.ihateliberals.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=845&page=4&pp=10), which are a lot like name calling.

I haven't gotten mad. I have gotten tired in cases and decided I won't pay attention to posts from certain users.

Owl...you want to break this down and point fingers at people. Both sides name call. For every name calling liberal sonofabitch, I can find one conservative name calling sonofabitch. K?

Oh and I know why you think "liberals" don't make sense. No doubt, to you, a liberal is someone who thinks in the opposite way that you do or has a thought that differs from your opinions in politics. You can't understand "liberals" because "we" think differently than you do.

[owl_the_beatnik]

When have I ever said I was a conservative?
I am more of a federalist.

[Wadi66]

When have I ever said I was a conservative?
I am more of a federalist.FYI the Federalists wanted a larger more centralized Fed. Govt., the anit-Federalists wanted a smaller govt. I'm an anti-Federalist.

[owl_the_beatnik]

FYI the Federalists wanted a larger more centralized Fed. Govt., the anit-Federalists wanted a smaller govt. I'm an anti-Federalist.

FYI I knew that, they also fight for the Constitution the way it was written.
Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay, are underappreciated in their roles in this country. They were the first Republicans and still lean to the right.

[Wadi66]

FYI I knew that, they also fight for the Constitution the way it was written.
Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay, are underappreciated in their roles in this country. They were the first Republicans and still lean to the right.Alexander Hamilton wanted a central bank with money borrowed from England. He also wanted a larger more controlling federal government. I would hardly consider him a "republican". In fact I would consider him a turn coat to the ideology the founding fathers had for us.

[owl_the_beatnik]

Alexander Hamilton wanted a central bank with money borrowed from England. He also wanted a larger more controlling federal government. I would hardly consider him a "republican". In fact I would consider him a turn coat to the ideology the founding fathers had for us.


Federalist Party (http://education.yahoo.com/reference/encyclopedia/entry?id=16575)

[Wadi66]

Federalist Party (http://education.yahoo.com/reference/encyclopedia/entry?id=16575)Read the anti-Federalist papers. When I studied Consitutional History it was required reading. Gives you a different perspective.

http://www.constitution.org/afp/afp.htm

"During the period from the drafting and proposal of the federal Constitution in September, 1787, to its ratification in 1789 there was an intense debate on ratification. The principal arguments in favor of it were stated in the series written by Madison, Hamilton, and Jay called the Federalist Papers, although they were not as widely read as numerous independent local speeches and articles. The arguments against ratification appeared in various forms, by various authors, most of whom used a pseudonym. Collectively, these writings have become known as the Anti-Federalist Papers. We here present some of the best and most widely read of these. They contain warnings of dangers from tyranny that weaknesses in the proposed Constitution did not adequately provide against, and while some of those weaknesses were corrected by adoption of the Bill of Rights, others remained, and some of these dangers are nowcoming to pass."

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

WhiteAfricanAmerican called me ChiaPet before I started screwing with his name when posting in quotes. I followed suit because you conservatives were doing it and this is a conservative website. ChiaPet is name calling. And a liberal did not come up with that name. It was WhiteAfricanAmerican.

That is a barefaced lie:

Here I'll prove it to you.

Here is my first post on this forum


05-30-2005, 07:54 AM #9
WhiteAfricanAmerican
Member

I remember hundreds of the commie pink limp-wrist animal molestors bouncing up and down at the early stages of OP: J-C.

Something about this war being about oil. In fact I remember some left wing putz talking about how the US was building a sub-terranian oil pipeline from Afghanistan to the US.........I can only laugh hysterically and shake my head at that.


Fact is, you left wing morons will not be satisfied until this country acquiesces
to the UN, and the rest of Old Europe.


Thank God there are more citizens here that appreciate exactly what the essence of the USA is, than there are those who hate this country's position and level of success when compared to the rest of the world.


Here is your response, and I added the emphasis:


05-30-2005, 08:17 AM #10
chi1088
Advanced Member

You have an avatar with a hippo that is smacking an invisible ass. Do you really expect anybody to consider what you have to say?


So right out of the blocks, you do nothing to address what I said, instead you get all uppity about my avatar.

Then I said


05-30-2005, 08:26 AM #11
WhiteAfricanAmerican
Member



Quote:
Originally Posted by chi1088
You have an avatar with a hippo that is smacking an invisible ass. Do you really expect anybody to consider what you have to say?

Wow, how intolerant and shallow of you. Aren't you the party that talks about looking beyond the surface into the heart?

Or is your statement indicative of the fact that you don't have any answers to what I wrote?

Or were you born without a sense of humour?

Which ever it is, I'd have to say that the purility of statement speaks more about your intelligence level than any avatar that I CHOOSE to use .

Notice, not name calling, just a legitmate question about you're abilities based your inability to answer my first post.

Your response:


05-30-2005, 01:45 PM #14
chi1088
Advanced Member


Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteAfricanAmerican
Wow, how intolerant and shallow of you. Aren't you the party that talks about looking beyond the surface into the heart?
Or is your statement indicative of the fact that you don't have any answers to what I wrote?

Or were you born without a sense of humour?

Which ever it is, I'd have to say that the purility of statement speaks more about your intelligence level than any avatar that I CHOOSE to use .


If you are going to use good vocabulary words like "puerility", you should get the word right. Purility is not a word. So you are saying my statement was immature/childish? Hmm...I believe an immature kid would've lauded your avatar.


Here, instead of answering, you attempt to rip my grammar.

I replied:


05-30-2005, 02:46 PM #17
WhiteAfricanAmerican
Member

Chi recognises that he/she is playing with fire, hence the stab at what he/she considers spelling, and the fact that she/he will not 'dignify' what I had to say with an answer.


BTW chi, Purility is to puerility as color is to colour.

I grew up speaking the Queen's English, irrespective, the point was made abundanltly clear, as even you pointed out.

So I'd suggest that you either ante up, or shut up.

Oh, one more thing, The Hippo stays..........only because I now know it irritates you

I then followed up with a post of 3 avatars for you to pick.

And you respond:



05-31-2005, 11:19 PM #38
chi1088
Advanced Member

I've found a better avatar, Wigga. You should use this one:
Attached Images


Wigga????? In every response to you , I refered to you as Chi. It is only AFTER this point that I started to refer to you as Chia Pet.

(For anyone that is interested this exchange is available on the first 3 pages of the "Liberal Idiots" page.)

To recap.

You're first response to me centered around an abortive attempt to deride me and my ability to be taken seriously by virtue of the avatar that I CHOSE!.

Through out that exchange you never once responded to ANYTHING I said.

You were the first one to resort to name calling.

Now, before you get all excited and start thinking you have found a 'button' to press. I could care less about what you said. What I am happy about is that you have just demonstrated to everyone on this board that you are

A) A bare faced liar
B) Do not let little pesky things like FACTS get in the way of you shooting your mouth off
C) Do not know how to debate.

One more thing:


Really? How come people will post stuff like, "I miss chi. He used to create debate and make this place interesting."?

I have yet to see anything like this being posted.

I wonder if it was some of your liberal buddies that were making this statement. If it were, then that would amount to nothing more than disingeniousness.