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FightinDaMan
06-10-2005, 05:28 PM
Here are a few articles worth reading. General conspiracy theory about the Bilderbergs and One World Government, but probably some truth in it. Take with a few grains of salt.


http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/052405Estulin/052405estulin.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/060705Estulin/060705estulin.html

Wadi66
06-10-2005, 05:39 PM
Here are a few articles worth reading. General conspiracy theory about the Bilderbergs and One World Government, but probably some truth in it. Take with a few grains of salt.


http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/052405Estulin/052405estulin.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/060705Estulin/060705estulin.htmlActually FDM a conspiracy theory is something that can't be proven. The One World Government is a known fact. The role the Bilderberger's play is highly suspect although I haven't taken the time to prove or disprove them. Their extraordinary efforts to remain secretive and who attends these meetings certainly makes one wonder.

Many things get catagorized as part of a "conspiracy theory" for the sole purpose of rendering it nonsense and unbelievable. That's exactly how the One World Government notion was treated 40+ yrs ago until 1991, when Bush Sr. blew the cover off. Now its openly discussed. So to everyone, don't be too quick to disregard the Bilderbergers but rather find out more and share it with us.

FightinDaMan
06-10-2005, 05:53 PM
Just to clarify, I'm not saying that it should be dismissed. I'm just pointing out that the author's writing seems to indicate that he's fond of tin-foil caps. He also compares Bush to Hitler which really hurts his credibility.

Wadi66
06-10-2005, 05:57 PM
Just to clarify, I'm not saying that it should be dismissed. I'm just pointing out that the author's writing seems to indicate that he's fond of tin-foil caps. He also compares Bush to Hitler which really hurts his credibility.I haven't taken the time to read the articles all the way through, did he make that comparison in his articles or elsewhere? I'll take the time to read them more fully when I get back from an appointment.

I'll also see what else I can find on them.

Comparing Bush to Hitler isn't cool I agree.

FightinDaMan
06-10-2005, 06:07 PM
He does it in one of the articles. I think it's in Part II.

Wadi66
06-11-2005, 01:30 AM
Okay, I’ve gotten a little more info. Knowing exactly where to start and how to present it became a problem. So bare with me on this.

In 1970, Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote a book entitled Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era, wherein he praised Marxism as “the best available insight into contemporary reality” claiming that the United States had descended into “obsolescence” and called for “management of America’s future (with the) planner as the key social legislator and manipulator”. Fretting over the resurgence of nationalism, Brzezinski prescribed the creation of a “larger community of developed nations through a variety of indirect ties and already developing limitations on national sovereignty.”

Why is this significant??

Brzezinski was already a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. In 1972 W. Michael Blumenthal brought up the Brzezinski plan at the Bilderberger meeting. Those in attendance began formulating what would later become known as the “Trilateral Commission”, named after a concept Brzezinski put forth in his 20 page article in the July 1973 issue of Foreign Affairs, a publication by the CFR.

Later in 1973, David Rockefeller tapped Brzezinski as director of this new creation. Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, W. Michael Blumenthal, Harold Brown and Cyrus Vance were among the members.

With in the Demo Party in the 1970’s Jimmy Carter was virtually unknown outside his home state of Georgia. But when he threw his hat into the national political arena, he soon went from "Jimmy Who?" to "Mr. President" and then chose Vice President Mondale, Treasury Secretary Blumenthal, Defense Secretary Brown, Secretary of State Vance, and national security adviser Brzezinski.

So why is all this important or at the very least interesting? Remember, it was the Bilderberger Group that decided to form what later became the Trilateral Commission. And the TC follows Brzezinski’s Marxist philosophy. Connect the dots.

Let me tell you, sitting on the DNC, when Carter came along as our Presidential candidate, everyone looked at each other scratching their heads and saying, HUH? Where did he come from? This also explains why he was totally surrounded by grassroots people who had never been involved in the party.

At a special meeting with the DNC leadership, he made it perfectly clear to us that the Demo Party wasn’t needed to win the election.

The bulb is getting brighter.

Wadi66
06-11-2005, 02:09 AM
He also compares Bush to Hitler which really hurts his credibility.okay, I found it. This is what the author wrote.......

"The feeling of enough-is-enough wasn't limited to the European Bilderbergers wary of Bush's Hitler-like delirious proclamations of regime changes worldwide."

He goes on to write.......

"Haass had pointedly told Richard Perle during a Saturday night cocktail party that the Bush administration has over-estimated its ability to change the world. Haass, according to several sources at the conference is reported to have stated that regime change can be attractive because it "is less distasteful than diplomacy and less dangerous than living with new nuclear states." However, he noted, "There is only one problem, it is highly unlikely to have the desired effect soon enough."

WhiteAfricanAmerican
06-11-2005, 01:39 PM
I tell you.

Another time, another place, I could see myself as an assasin, offing people like those bastards.

It bugs the living crap out of me that rich scum like that can influence my life, WITHOUT my permission.

Wadi66
06-11-2005, 10:29 PM
WAA I know just how ya feel!!

"During the Carter administration (1977-1981), many Americans became alarmed about the Trilateralist takeover and the organization’s plans for mankind. Responding to a query about the TC’s influence, CFR President Winston Lord, a member also of TC, quipped in 1978: "The Trilateral Commission doesn’t secretly run the world. The Council on Foreign Relations does that." And Senator Barry Goldwater’s 1979 book With No Apologies concluded: "What the Trilaterals truly intend is the creation of worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nation-states involved.... As managers and creators of the system they will rule the future."

I remember those years as if they were yesterday.

WhiteAfricanAmerican
06-12-2005, 08:29 AM
One thing these pukes seem to ignore, is the unpredictablility of mankind.

Somewhere down the road, the people will storm the Bastille again, and waste those bastards. Hopefully sooner than later.