This Must Be Stopped

[IHL]

<img align=left textalign=top hspace=5 vspace=5 src="http://www.ihateliberals.com/pages/images/tbtmemorial.jpg"></img>If there was one place you'd think the liberals would leave alone it is the 9/11 memorial that is planned to open in 2010. Instead, groups like "Stop the Torture Now" and "Human Rights First" are trying to turn this memorial into their own political spin machine. Stop Torture Now is not at all what it's name implies. Their focus is not on stopping torture, it is about focusing on how America is the worst country in the world. Something liberals love to do on an ongoing basis. Their site contains not one picture of Americans being beheaded or the burnt bodies of American being hung from a bridge in Fallujah. Instead, they focus entirely on Abu Ghraib, and Guantanamo and use slogans like "Close the Gulag - Arrest Bush". Are these the sort of groups you want monopolize the 9/11 memorial. Well if groups like the ACLU and George Soro's MoveOn.org have their way, that is exactly what will happen.

Debra Burlingame, sister of Charles F. “Chic” Burlingame III, pilot of American Airlines fight 77, which was crashed into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, is a member of the board of directors of the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation. At the site, TakeBackTheMemorial.org (http://takebackthememorial.org./), you can read about the plan for left wing, anti-American groups to overtake the 9/11 memorial and fill it with things like a “we must understand how we brought this on ourselves” exhibit.



From the TakeBackTheMemorial web site:
The World Trade Center Memorial will break ground this year. When those Marines return in 2010, the year it is scheduled to open, no doubt they will expect to see the artifacts that bring those memories to life. They’ll want a vantage point that allows them to take in the sheer scope of the destruction, to see the footage and the photographs and hear the personal stories of unbearable heartbreak and unimaginable courage. They will want the memorial to take them back to who they were on that brutal September morning.



Instead, they will get a memorial that stubbornly refuses to acknowledge the yearning to return to that day. Rather than a respectful tribute to our individual and collective loss, they will get a slanted history lesson, a didactic lecture on the meaning of liberty in a post-9/11 world. They will be served up a heaping foreign policy discussion over the greater meaning of Abu Ghraib and what it portends for the country and the rest of the world.”


Please visit this site. Please write to those that can stop this atrocity from happening and please donate to their cause if you are able. Even a small contribution can help. Don't let these left wing traitors use the memorial for more anti-American rhetoric.

[Bluethunder33]

After reading more 'stuff' from takebackthememorial site, I am totally sickened by the ACLU and the other groups wanting some sort of blame America memorial... absolutely discusting that someone could think that the act of terrorism on Sept. 11 was justified in ANY way... there is no justification for it and there and the people who died that day should be remembered properly....

The ACLU is not guided by morals or some sort of conviction, they are motivated by an infiriority complex and it is discusting how much power people give to the 'squeeky wheel' whenever it finds another way to bash traditional views, equality for all (they just want equality for them and thier special interest whining) and the sacrifice and hard work that has made America the greatest country on the Planet...

I sincerely hope the public will not stand for this non-sense at any time but especially when it comes to remembering the tragedy of 9-11. If the memorial is changed to blame America for this attack, then I will be embarrassed to call myself an American...

[FinalSolution]

Any liberal that says he loves America is a liar, plain and simple. I am starting to believe that liberals should be treated like animals and live in a zoo! They have done nothing to this country but twist the Constitution to fit their needs, and ideas. Anything and everything a liberal does hurts America. Hey, Liberals if you hate this country and don't want to be governed by a republican, leave go to Canada, I don't care...Stop with your empty threats and leave, I don't really care what you say and how you live, just go and stop threating us! You have done nothing worthwhile for this country, but put us down. Love it or leave it.

[IHL]

Your late again IHL, there is aready a thread on this topic. If you would like to post please find the 1st thread and continue there. Gee Mute, I really apologize for screwing up your site. Any other demands you'd like to make to me about my site?

You're lucky you're still here after that comment. I'll continue to post things on the front page whenever and however I want. Just because there is a topic on it, doesn't mean it was presented well, or that I agree with it or that I like the commentary on it. Leave the site administration to me and you'll have a much better chance of being able to post anything at all.

[thumbelina]

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[Wadi66]

:icon_eek: Mute, I think ya blew it man.

[FKLBRLS]

We can't let this happen. We can't. Because then our children, and their children, and everybody's children after that; will be told how we "brought 9-11 upon ourselves". And as us, the generation that witnessed it; grow old and die, there will be no one to reveal the truth. And in 150 years when eight graders study 9-11, instead of being told how we were attacked by an enemy, they will be told about how "we encouraged an attack on ourselves and should be held responsible". And, not having anyone to give them the actual truth, they will believe it.

This BS about 9-11 being our fault reminds me of two more 9-11 false stories. One is that it was a US missle that blew up the Pentagon. The other is that United flight 93 was shot down by the government. Both we know are BS, but the liberals are pushing it on America.

Our future is teetering on the brink of 2 outcomes: either we maintain the free, truthful society that America is supposed to be. Or, if the left takes power, we will plunge into an era of extreme censorship where what actually happened is cast away in favor of something completely opposite of the truth. Oh wait this is already happening. Let's see, according to the left and the media: Iraq hates us, 9-11 is our fault, Saddam never had any WMDs, John Kerry and Bill Clinton are the greatest men that ever lived, women are discriminated against, blacks are discriminated against, etc. Of course none of these are true, but according to the liberals, it is an all true reality. I think it has something to do with when the hippies took LSD and saw things. They never truly recovered from the drug and as a result still see things, and then the left says that these hallucinations are the real world.
Which future do you choose? If you agreed to vote for Hilary Clinton then you just chose the second option.

[Republican_Anthem]

I wonder why they aren't doing this to the Vietnam Memorial...you know the liberals did say this war is "just like Vietnam."

[redwinger13]

Gee Mute, I really apologize for screwing up your site. Any other demands you'd like to make to me about my site?

You're lucky you're still here after that comment. I'll continue to post things on the front page whenever and however I want. Just because there is a topic on it, doesn't mean it was presented well, or that I agree with it or that I like the commentary on it. Leave the site administration to me and you'll have a much better chance of being able to post anything at all.


Someone is a little cranky.......need a nap?

[Wadi66]

Someone is a little cranky.......need a nap?Red you're calling IHL cranky? Someone who is allowed to post on a site PAID FOR by IHL has the audacity to call him on starting a thread? Go back and read Mute's post. What the *ell gives Mute the right to tell IHL how to run HIS site paid for with HIS money and HIS time? Geeze......... You kids need to show some respect and instead of complaining, express some appreciation.

[FightinDaMan]

Amen Wadi. Maybe IHL should create a forum for admin appreciation, the MarkLevinFan did that on his forum.

[IHL]

I'll make this quick because I don't want this thread sidetracked. Here's a tip for those that need it. If you feel you must attack people on this site, the last people you want to do it to are the moderators and the guy that runs it. Apparently warnings aren't enough as redwinger13 found out. Not only didn't he learn from my warning to The_Mute, he had to add his own comments. I guess some people just don't catch on too quickly.

[God v2.0]

Libertarians scare me

[FKLBRLS]

Someone said a missle it the pentagon? What a f*ckin idiot! They found the wings, the engines, most of the plane, do youj mean to tell me they planted all the bodies and the plane parts and eerything just so they could hit themselves with a missle? Good greif.
Ain't the left screwy? Not only did they think a missile hit the Pentagon, the made a movie about the theory. Fortunately when a teacher at my school showed it to a class, she was fired, so I guess the truth isn't entirely overrated, yet. Along with this, there are theories that the US does terrorist attacks in Cuba, the first lunar landing was done in a studio, that blacks and women are prejudiced against, Bush had enough evidence that 9-11 was going to happen and didn't act (I know it's BS), and United flight 93 (the one that crashed in Penn.) was also shot down by the govt. This one pisses me off especially because the courageous people onboard were smart enough to try to overthrow the terrorists on board and foil an attack (plus they were smart enough to fly United :icon_mrgr ).


I wonder why they aren't doing this to the Vietnam Memorial...you know the liberals did say this war is "just like Vietnam."

personally I don't know. I think it's because both Bushes were successful businessmen and the left doesn't like it when people get rich through business and hard work. (however, they don't give a flying F*ck when people make millions doing close to nothing in the entertainment industry) Nixon, as far as I know, was a lawyer or something. And a democrat was in the white house for the first decade of the Vietnam War.

lastly, why haven't our liberal friends on the site responded to this thread?

[lordnyra]

Libertarians are right wing technically but are left wing socially.
I believe in lowering taxes but not lowering the gov't
The liberals only blame the US on the atttack because they didnt have a loved one get killed. I remember there was an anti US rally in watertown MA where they blamed the attacks on us (people who lost loved ones and smart people where protesting THEM) Anyways were not gonna let the libs take over if they make an anti us monument well make a anti lib monument next to it. (and well make it bigger)

[HOKIEHUNTER]

this is complete BS. It amazes me how just about everyone forgot how it felt that day. forgot what the following weeks and months were like. Forgot the comercials that showed a dtring of houses pre 9-11 with only one flag outside the whole strip, and post 9-11 with a flag or 2 on every house. Do the liberals of this site forget how it felt? I think about it on almost a daily basis. everytime i hear a news report from the middle east, everytime i think about a friend serving over there, everytime I go to sleep at night, I see the smoke billowing out of those buildings, i see panicked people running from rubble and debris in the street, i see the second plane hitting the building. This date was almost a second pearl harbor. we honor that date and have memorials to the fallen there, but an anti-american memorial is disgaceful. If New York allows these dumbasses to build such a shitty memorial then that city will lose all my respect. IF THEY START BUILDING AN ANTI-AMERICAN MONUMENT AT GROUND ZERO I'M ASKING ALL THE GANGSTERS AND WHOEVER ELSE TO RASIE HELL AND SHUT THE M'F'ERS DOWN!!!

[14edsullivan]

http://www.minibite.com/america/forgotten.htm


I love that song....Have you forgotten...daryl worley

[RightisRightLeftisWrong]

First time poster ive been reading post for awhile and people why would you diss the Administrator. IHL I give you props I love your site :icon_smil.

But, to my point I think what they are doing with the World Trade Center Mermoial is completly riduclues I feel sick sometimes listening and watching what the Liberals have to say and it makes want to throw up its sad because im starting to hate this country because of all the liberals ruining it but then i tell myself its the Democrats. I wish it would stop but it wont, the miniority is taking over the majority I wish there is somthing we can do to stop this from happing We need to Honor the fallen ones not Say "HAHA! its your fault for being part of the worst country in the World." its sad what this country is coming too.

[LiberalsAreBabyKillers!]

Completely agree. Lets start a coalition. I could say a million things, but here's a link that outlines a plan I seriously think should happen. It's a few years old but still valid. Check it out:

etherzone.com/2001/kali101701.shtml

[Topiary Lady]

Michael Savage has been pounding this issue on his show for some time, and he's been right from day one. Liberals do not want the American public to remember the horrors of that day when 3,000 innocent people were murdered by Muslim extremists.

What's that word you used IHL? 'Pussification'? Yeah, the American haters at the ACLU want to 'pussify' the whole ordeal and pretty up the images of innocent human beings jumping to their deaths as the towers burned. They want to do what they always do and blame America for this.

Well let me just say B.S.! We need to stick with the truth here. We need to never forget the day when we all awoke to see what hateful Arab Muslim extremists did. The 9/11 memorial should reflect that and only that. Anything else would be just plain insulting, not only to those who died, but to all Americans.

Sickening as it is to see the images of that horrific day in 2001, I do think it should be shown without editing out the really bad images. Just as Michael Savage has had the videos available on his site of the beheading of Nick Berg and others, as well as the images of the American contractors bodies being burned and hung from a bridge in Iraq, the truthful images of 9/11 should be displayed at the memorial so we can remember what Muslim men with hateful hearts are capable of.

[Wadi66]

One thing the ACLU and hard core leftist don't want is patriotism in America. The incredible thrust of patriotism after 9/11 really alarmed them.

[Butane_40]

Now, I'm not the kind of guy that hates liberals (I know, wtf am I doing here then?) And I'm prolly one of the people that most of you hate. But I'd like to distance myself from groups that want to make the memorial have any "we deserved this" spin. While it is important for us to keep a atchful eye on people, we didn't tell anyone to do this. It it "about time" or "comeupance"? I don;t think so, but I can see where they're coming from when they say this. But I can't think of anyone that would want to be remembered as a victim that died because "we deserved it." They'd prolly want to be remembered as the people that were either doing what they did every day, were just in the wrong place at the wrong tie, or were trying to save people. They deserve a memorial, not a weak guilt trip.

//Butane

[RightisRightLeftisWrong]

Thats the point we are getting at Butan its a crying shame to see that happing what do you think when Fire Departments or Paramedics or workers who lost their loved ones that day are going to do when they walk in the Memorial and see stuff that has nothing to do with 9/11, and have stuff hinting, they wont say it out loud though but hinting that we deserved what happend to us witch would be pretty obivous to see. Like I heard they are going to have the Martin Luther King Jr "I Have A Dream" Speach in Memorial what in the hell does that have to do with 9/11 im not being racist but they has nothing to do with it. This country is losing its intergity minute by minute because of groups like "Stop the Torture Now" and "Human Rights First." Its sad to see the Country I love so much get ruined.

[Miro Satan Fan]

New York Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/339270p-289564c.html) - The International Freedom Center, which proposes to run a museum at Ground Zero, announced in April that it has “drawn inspiration and received some important practical advice” from a group of so-called museums of conscience around the world.
The IFC’s organizers have also cited plans to host exhibitions by members of the International Coalition of Historic Site Museums of Conscience as a reason why the Freedom Center would be a perfect fit for the hallowed ground where 2,749 people were murdered. To which we can only say that IFC leaders Tom Bernstein and Richard Tofel must be nuts. The advice the coalition gave them is neither inspirational nor practical. It is pure anti-American hogwash.

The coalition’s wisdom, as spelled out in its 2004 annual report, begins by expressing concern about how religious Muslims would view the Freedom Center and climaxes by offering Bernstein, Tofel & Co. an offensive prescription: “Don’t put America first.” The coalition also worries that “the average Bangladeshi” feels “his/her human rights have been violated by the U.S.” Come again? Exhibits on what amounts to a mass grave of slaughtered Americans will be decided by what the average Bangladeshi feels? Not bloody likely.

[FKLBRLS]

Well. So now we are deciding how to remember the 3000 that were killing by consulting how their killers will feel about the memorial. That's just great. Why don't we hang a bunch of Japanese flags over Pearl Harbor whiile we're at it? Why don't we rechristian the USS Cole as the USS Abdul? Why don't we name the Oklahoma City Federal Building after it's destroyer? These all sound preposterous so I'm sure consulting how Arabs feel about a 9-11 memorial will have nothing to do with how the monument will look.