Bush Smarter Than Kerry at Yale

[IHL]

This is so good, I hope I can compose myself long enough to write this.

It has been a favorite pastime of the liberals to tell everyone how much of a moron George Bush is, how stupid he is, what a rotten student Bush was, and how he barely squeaked by in school and only made it via the influence of "his daddy". Kerry has actually been quoted as saying, "I can't believe I'm losing to this moron".

Kerry has also always refused to release his full military records (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/04/20/kerry_refuses_to_release_more_records/). It seems Kerry was afraid to release the full records of the stellar war record he bragged about. The question has always been why? Why would this war hero be afraid to release his records? Could there be some damaging information in there? The answer - yes.

According to the Boston Globe, part of the information in Kerry's military record included his grades at Yale. His grades were not great to say the least. OK, fine - so Kerry wasn't a great student. What so bad about that? At least he did better than that "moron" George Bush. I mean, anyone could do better than a guy that only squeaked by because of the influence of his daddy. And besides, Bush is one of the most stupid people in the world. Certainly Kerry, who the libs made out to be one of the smartest men in the world would have much higher grades than Bush. Right? .... right? ... right? Nope. Bush had better grades than Kerry (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/06/07/yale_grades_portray_kerry_as_a_lackluster_student? mode=PF). (OK, excuse me while I try to compose myself.)

According to the reports - " Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale" - "Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years"

I'll grant you that these are virtually identical scores, but can you imaging what would have happened if Kerry had released this information before the election? He would have been even more of a laughing stock. Instead, Kerry opted to portray himself as smarter than Bush, be dishonest and deceptive to the American people and hope that he could buy his time until he was president. Typical. So how are the libs going to spin this one? How can they now continue to call Bush a moron? I'm sure it will all stop now - all the name calling and I'm sure the New York Times and Newsweek and CBS will all print retractions and apologies. I'll be sure to provide links to those stories as they become available.

A quote from John Kerry in 2000: ''all over this country, people are asking whether or not George Bush is smart enough to be president of the United States.'' ... ''And I'll tell you what's really scary: One of the people that's asking is Dan Quayle.'' - source, Boston Globe 11/6/2000

No John, what's scary is that you could have become president. Well, if Bush isn't smart enough to be president, where does that put Kerry?

[HOKIEHUNTER]

haha, in tha picture kerry looks like he can smell the shit that was gonna come out of his mouth in last year's election. it's just another instance of liberal damage control. "unfortunately" conservatives don't have slime-bag a-holes like Mr. Moore to uncover crap like that before the election.

[Bumblebee]

Actually, during the election, it did come out in one or maybe two newspapers that Bush had a slightly higher score then Kerry, but I think that score was in the military. (not sure) Of course the bias press wouldn't have reported such a thing.
The funny part is when Kerry and his followers were trying to pass himself/ him off as an 'intellectual', all the liberals were calling Bush not only an idiot, but that during his college years he was some cokehead and playing around. If that is true, that makes Bush a genius next to Kerry.

[OmegaRed]

Bush is actually one of the top presidents as grades go......

[Count Rugen]

Bush is actually one of the top presidents as grades go......
I think you're talking about intelligence. President Bush got horrible grades throughout school, but I wouldn't argue if you said he was one of the most intelligent Presidents. The man is very smart, he just wasn't very good at school.
I think it was Wilson or Turman who was the smartest President (if you were to measure IQ).

I'll tell you one thing, I wouldn't have been accepted to Yale if my dad was PRESIDENT, let alone CIA or former CIA director (I forget if Bush Sr. was still active at that time).

[IHL]

I've never been one to hold a lot of stock in IQ tests. They have some merit, but intelligence can be measured in a lot of ways.

The bigger point here is that I truly believe one of the reasons that Kerry was not forthright with his military records is because of this information. I think the other big reason is that they will show that Kerry was not really the big war hero he portrayed himself to be either.

[OmegaRed]

I think you're talking about intelligence. President Bush got horrible grades throughout school, but I wouldn't argue if you said he was one of the most intelligent Presidents. The man is very smart, he just wasn't very good at school.
I think it was Wilson or Turman who was the smartest President (if you were to measure IQ).

I'll tell you one thing, I wouldn't have been accepted to Yale if my dad was PRESIDENT, let alone CIA or former CIA director (I forget if Bush Sr. was still active at that time).



Sorry IQwise he was outstanding the websiteurbanlegends did the highest IQ
1)Turman
2)Cooliage
3)Wilson
4)Teddy
5)W.

[chi1088]

If you all want liberals to shut up and stop saying that "Kerry won the election...there was fraud in Ohio" or something to the tune of that, don't you think you should stop bringing up garbage like this? I mean...what does it matter? Nobody cares about Kerry anymore, not even Democrats it would seem. IHL, what kind of conservative or supporter of Republicans are you? Are you at a loss for words now as the Republican party caves? Do you find it hard to sleep at night so you post posts on Clinton's years, Hillary, or how bad of a candidate Kerry was? These are easy topics to make liberals look bad on. You're doing this all to look good, IHL. Talk about how Bush is making our country a better one through policies. Talk about how Iraq is improving. Talk about how our environment is becoming cleaner because of the Bush administration. Oh, I forgot...the Bushies have not done anything good for the environment, our country is not getting better, and Iraq just had a string of explosions.

For IHL, he's moving onto... that's right...Laura Bush: A Better Girl Scout Than Hillary

*(Disclaimer: I do not know if Laura or Hillary were girl scouts. Frankly, I don't care. This is just a joke.)

[IHL]

Well Chi, as I've stated before, I point out topics in the news that I find of interest. There are plenty of debates on Iraq, the economy, Social Security and the like. I don't care to try to compete with CNN or Fox or any major news outlet. I find this story about Kerry very amusing because it shows the deceit and hypocrisy of the liberals. And, I would have been happy to talk about before the election when it was more relevant except your boy Kerry wouldn't disclose his records then.

I'm talking about it now because it is in the news now. There is a whole forum on here called Current Events. Feel free to post in there about anything you want.



Are you at a loss for words now as the Republican party caves? Yes, I am completely at a loss to talk about that since the party is no where near caving in a general sense. I think some Republicans did cave on the filibuster issue and was right there giving them a hard time for it.

Keep two things in mind. First - This site is about bashing liberals, not about trying to make Republicans or this administration look good. We/they do that on their own. And second, since it's my site I can talk about anything I choose. On your site, you could do the same. What a great country huh? I don't blame you for not liking what you see here. That is the whole idea. It's one of the main reasons I made the site. I point out the dangers and hypocrisy of liberalism and liberals. This story is a shining example of that.

[Northeast Rep.]

I point out topics in the news that I find of interest. There are plenty of debates on Iraq, the economy, Social Security and the like. I don't care to try to compete with CNN or Fox or any major news outlet.

Its about time stories like this pop up. Living in the northeast region of the country is not very easy if you are a republican. Stories like this do not emerge in the papers because of the obvious (they are destructive to the advancement of the socialist, i mean democratic, party). It's a shame that some states by me would vote for a terrorist if he ran as a democrat.

Continue to print these stories...

[chi1088]

Question: (Answer if you have read anything about Bush's life before being "born-again"). Since we are on the topic of Bush and Kerry and whether they are morons or not (frankly, I think we could both say they are but let's not make this too complicated) is there any reason to not think that Bush was a moron before he was "born-again" as members of the Christian faith put it? I read stuff that sounded to me like he let his life get out of control for at least 10 years. It should not be surprising that someone looked at it and deemed it to be moronic and with that in mind called him a moron.

Likewise, Kerry is moronic for the scores thing you post up and because he used his controversial war record with the hope of improving his campaign. He forgot about what happened with the purple hearts and how he didn't approve of the Vietnam War. And frankly, I don't know if I would've wanted someone who said "Hey, I am against the Vietnam War but I will fight in it." Because that man could not have been as good of a fighter as the man who said "Who the f**k cares? We're Americans! Now let's go kill these bastards!!!" Which obviously, was not Kerry's sentiment in a war that almost required that kind of emotional or mental mindset.

Oh, and about you're first thing IHL. This site is about bashing liberals and not trying to make Republicans look good? Basically you're saying you'd rather bash liberals instead of defending Republicans. Which basically is about the same as a liberal's "Anybody but Bush in '04" attitude. An attitude that a lot of people on this site (I don't know about you) do not like.

[chi1088]

Its about time stories like this pop up. Living in the northeast region of the country is not very easy if you are a republican. Stories like this do not emerge in the papers because of the obvious (they are destructive to the advancement of the socialist, i mean democratic, party). It's a shame that some states by me would vote for a terrorist if he ran as a democrat.

Continue to print these stories...

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[IHL]

You're getting a bit off topic. The point of this topic isn't about whether or not the two men are considered by some to be morons or stupid or whatever you want to call it. I will say none of them are stupid men or morons by any stretch of the imagination. Sure, they've done things that in hindsight might not have been the brightest moves, or things they regret. We are all guilty of that. My point is not about the test scores themselves, my point is much bigger than that.

The point of this whole story as far as I'm concerned is how Kerry and his willing accomplices in the media jumped at the chance to portray Bush in this light. In 2000 Kerry said, ''all over this country, people are asking whether or not George Bush is smart enough to be president of the United States.'' pausing for a beat, he added: ''And I'll tell you what's really scary: One of the people that's asking is Dan Quayle.''

This isn't anything new. They tried it with Reagan, they tried it with Ford, and they certainly tried it with Dan Quayle. The liberals love to make the Republicans out to be stupid while trumpeting how smart the Democrats are. We hear all about how Clinton is a Rhodes Scholar and Al "a zebra does not change its spots" Gore was so smart we can't comprehend his superior intelligence. It's simply one of the liberal attempts at a smear campaign and this was no different.

So when this story comes out, it's a hoot. It would be completely comical if it weren't so sad and showed the desperation of the liberals. So I don't want to hear about who is smarter or who isn't - that is a game for liberals. What I'm trying to do is point out the utter hypocrisy of it all.

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[All American Kid]

is there any reason to not think that Bush was a moron before he was "born-again" as members of the Christian faith put it? I read stuff that sounded to me like he let his life get out of control for at least 10 years. It should not be surprising that someone looked at it and deemed it to be moronic and with that in mind called him a moron.


Do what?? Let me see he graduated from not only Yale but also Hardford, flew jets, campaigned for family members and made millions off of a baseball team. If this is the definition of a moron SIGN ME UP!!! Oh yea I forgot the intellectual liberal rebutal for all this....his daddy did it all for him...please. I reckon daddy Bush fixed SAT scores and made some clone to fly the jets for W.

But back to point. I remember Kerry on Meet the Press telling Tim Russert on how ALL of his military records where released. Uh...maybe he was talking about releasing his records before he actually didn't release them...(my head is begining to spin)....

This is a great example on how Democrats have no regard for what the truth is. Thank God for good people like IHL that are commited to expose the lies and smear tactics of the left. --AAK

[chi1088]

IHL, so in one clear statement or reference to your first post, what is the utter hypocrisy of it all? What is your clear and concise problem? Is it just that the scores weren't that different so why say anything? I'm just asking for clarification.

[IHL]

I think I've been very clear in my point but I'll type it slowly for you. The hypocrisy is that liberals have constantly tried to portray Republicans as being stupid.

For the rest of you that are reading this, I apologize for being redundant but I have to spell this out for the liberals.

Chi, my problem isn't that the test scores are similar. That is my point - The Republican candidates aren't stupid. Liberals tried to paint Nixon as being stupid, they tried to portray Reagan as stupid, they constantly made fun of Dan Quayle for being a complete dolt, which is the only reason George Sr. avoided those same jabs. To this day, people still make fun of Dan Quayle for the "potatoe" incident (http://www.rightgrrl.com/carolyn/potatoe.html). And they have continued to make George Bush out to be a moron on a daily basis. Based on the smears of the left, John Kerry should have test scores that are considerably higher than Bush. Bush is a dunce right? He's a moron right? Even Kerry had to bring up the quote I just referenced, "over this country, people are asking whether or not George Bush is smart enough to be president of the United States.'' and then make the joke about Dan Quayle asking too. So the point as clearly and concisely as I can make it is that it is hypocritical for Kerry to ask a question like that when Kerry himself is withholding the very documents that prove he is no smarter than Bush. Get it? To imply someone is a stupid is also implying that you must be smarter than them. He isn't. Kerry is a hypocrite. The liberal media is just as bad.

[chi1088]

I think I've been very clear in my point but I'll type it slowly for you. The hypocrisy is that liberals have constantly tried to portray Republicans as being stupid.

For the rest of you that are reading this, I apologize for being redundant but I have to spell this out for the liberals.

Thank you, IHL. It's liberal...not liberals. I'll take all the blame for this one. Or maybe I'll just say I wanted to be sure of what exactly you were saying since it is so minute in my opinion.


...And they have continued to make George Bush out to be a moron on a daily basis. Based on the smears of the left, John Kerry should have test scores that are considerably higher than Bush. Bush is a dunce right? He's a moron right? Even Kerry had to bring up the quote I just referenced, "over this country, people are asking whether or not George Bush is smart enough to be president of the United States.'' and then make the joke about Dan Quayle asking too.

I wouldn't disagree though. He says a lot of weird things like "Is our children learning?". And uses different words in place of the words that should be there. Recently, he said of Amnesty International:


"It seemed like to me they based some of their decisions on the word of -- and the allegations -- by people who were held in detention, people who hate America, people that had been trained in some instances to disassemble -- that means not tell the truth."

No, Mr. Bush...disassemble does not mean to not tell the truth. Disassemble is what you did to Iraq. You took it apart. In this instance, it should be easy for you to see how some people could consider him stupid.


To imply someone is stupid is also implying that you must be smarter than them. He isn't. Kerry is a hypocrite. The liberal media is just as bad.

Maybe Kerry feels he has more street smarts than Bush. G.W. did rely on daddy to get him where he is today.

[deek]

i really don't care. ive always thought bush to be intelligent. he was a partier and still did better than kerry the nerd.

all i really care about is the fact that all the stupid liberals that i had to hear harp and harp about how stupid bush is. (it was all over campuses). they all went to the polling booth and voted for the dumber of the two candidates. it makes me beam with happiness. after all the bitching...nonstop "bush is an idiot" "he is a monkey" they voted for the less intelligent person.

i have already sent that link in an email to every liberal idiot that i had to talk to at college and could remember their email. and before the link i wrote "looks like you picked the only person on the ballot dumber than bush"

also, it shows again that kerry is a phony.

[HOKIEHUNTER]

haha i will agree with you here, deek, and I too have been doin the same thing

[All American Kid]

. Maybe Kerry feels he has more street smarts than Bush. G.W. did rely on daddy to get him where he is today.

Well I would assume that a gigolo would have street smarts. But what on Earth does Bush's daddy have to do with W getting better grades than Kerry? Liberal template I reckon, when caught make unfounded broad accusations like "war criminal", "stupid", and "daddy did it for him". Keep up the great debate skills!!!

[chi1088]

Ok how is
"Is our children learning?" weird?


And Jean Kerry's father was an ambassador to country...France. Like daddy didn't help him either

I think it's supposed to be "Are our children learning?".

[chi1088]

Well I would assume that a gigolo would have street smarts. But what on Earth does Bush's daddy have to do with W getting better grades than Kerry? Liberal template I reckon, when caught make unfounded broad accusations like "war criminal", "stupid", and "daddy did it for him". Keep up the great debate skills!!!


What the hell are you talking about? First off, the grades shown here are 1 percent apart and would come out to be the same letter grade on any report card. Liberal template? You mean like talking points? I didn't use talking points. But since you did, I will address them.

"Daddy did it for him" is not a broad accusation. If you read about his life, you can see where he got things given to him.

"Stupid"? Well, I'll take the O'Reilly view for this one. He's obviously not stupid since he's gone through college, been a governor, and is now on his second term as President of the United States.

"War criminal?" Don't know where I said anything about him being one.

I'll take this attitude with my debate skills, AllAmericanKid. If I am wrong in the way I debate, I don't want to be right. :wink:

[Republican_Anthem]

To say something about that IQ stuff, I got a 194 and I still consider myself a dumbass. Anyway...

The point is, the democratic party has been painting Kerry as a war hero because he "served" his country in Vietnam and Bush stayed in Texas with the Air National Guard. Then, they go on to say that Bush is an idiot, and Kerry is smarter, as that quote by John Kerry on Meet The Press.

Sure, it may be 1 percent off, but you are saying they both have the same letter grade. 1 percent is a lot if you ask me. 1 percent can help someone from an F to a D. Just imagine if Bush had a 70 percent and Kerry had a 69 percent? It would be sweeter, but that is not the case, and if it were, I would highly doubt the so called "smart" democratic party would have elected Kerry as their nominee, as they should have gone with somebody who is not ultra-left.

(It is also finally great to be back with only final exams to go!)

[chi1088]

Ehh what the heck. I'll leave it here for people to read.

http://www.wrgb.com/news/regional/regional.asp?selection=article_34980