Hillary Win???

[grant]

Bill O'Reilly on "The View" was asked if Hillary could win the presidency in 2008. He said that she could.

He qualified that by stating that that could be possible if the Republicans put up a goof ball.

I don't think Hillary stands a ghost of a chance, regardless. . .

Further, Republicans won't be so inept as to put up a loser. There will come to the fore a superb candidate to carry on the conservative banner.

[Wadi66]

Hillary is the only democratic candidate with enough name recognition to win the primaries. The only thing that could possibly stand in her way is for Bill to take over Kofi Annan's position. That should scare the *ell out of Americans. A Clinton as Secretary General and as President of the U.S.A., should be enough to litterly raise the roof worldwide. But then, that just may provide the needed thrust to get the EU Constitution passed. Scare the *ell out of Europe. And if Congress passes the FTAA this year, that added to the two Clintons in top positions, Europe will crumble.

Republicans as usual haven't a feasible candidate waiting in the wings... big mistake. Unless Cheney stands down and Bush appoints a really solid and popular Conservative to replace him who could then run a good race against Hillary.

[idontcarewhatuthink]

Hillarys probalby the only true Liberal democrat with balls... and i wouldnt count that as a good thing because i STRONGLY DESPISE hillary clinton along with many if not all other liberal democrats in the world.

[IHL]

Hillary could easily win the Democratic nomination but don't think she is the only one that could do it. There are others. Kerry will still have a chance again, Edwards will probably run. Could Hillary win? Of course she could.

And just who are the Republicans going to put up? McCain? He's a liberal. He could beat Hillary but I can't see him winning the Republican nomination. He may be a war hero and I respect him for his service, but as far as being a Republican - he's a traitor.

It will be interesting but there is no big name right now that has a lock on the Republican ticket either.

[Joe Dokes]

Its highly doubtful that hillary will ever get in office.The democrats ,even if they can come up with a formidable opponent.The party is virtually in the toilet after the previous elections.Most people have lost faith in the dems . Its
kinda hard for them to redeem themselves after they keep turnin a deaf ear to
the voters.Need i say more? The proof is in their own track record.

[Wadi66]

Hillary could easily win the Democratic nomination but don't think she is the only one that could do it. There are others. Kerry will still have a chance again, Edwards will probably run.Yeah Edwards could run, and he could appeal to the more moderate democrat simply because Hillary is so over the top liberal despite her efforts to moderate her position. But he's awfully young. I know Kennedy was young, but Kennedy looked older for his years than Edwards does. We have a youthful nation but by and large its the older generation that elects the President. Kerry is washed out of Presidential races. Normally, he could make a second stab at it, but in the last election even though his numbers were artifically high, his reputation was slashed, his strong liberal views and his instability reveiled. You can't win a position like the Presidency with a flip-flop cloud hanging over your head. Were I ask to spearhead his campaign, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.


And just who are the Republicans going to put up? McCain? He's a liberal. He could beat Hillary but I can't see him winning the Republican nomination. He may be a war hero and I respect him for his service, but as far as being a Republican - he's a traitor.McCain doesn't have what it takes to be President. Senator is his limit.

[OmegaRed]

Here is the line in Vegas..


Democrats......Clinton 9/2
Kennedy 3/1
Edwards 10/1
Joe the Jew 10/1
Gore 20/1
Kerry 300/1


Republicans..........vp Cheney 3/1
Rummy 5/1
Frist 2/1
Evans 20/1
Powell 20/1
Rice 10/1

[aequitas_justice]

And just who are the Republicans going to put up? .

I nominate Condi Rice. That would be great as well as a rub in the faces of the democratic party.

[Avid_Liberal_Hater]

I keep hearing beople throwing around Condi's name. What has she done to qualify her for the presidency?

[All American Kid]

I think Hillary will be hard to beat. Say what you will (I'll most likley agree) but she is no dummy. She stuck to her yes vote to goto war. Then try to appear conservative with illegal immigratoin (trust me this has an alternative motive other than appearing moderate) and will take any cheap photo op with military sevice men or women. She also has made strong statements against same-sex marrages etc. I also must say she does know how to conduct herself in public appearances.

Now who will run for the Republicans. On the moderate side we already know Govenor Pataki has set up a commitee to inquire on a prez bid. McCian well he has all but said he would run and recent actions have left little doubt. Then Giuliani, after the RNC speech and much campaigning (or favors) he has done across the country last couple election he is in good position to throw his hat in.

On the dye in the wool republicans running being from VA I know that Sen. Alan has told his staff to prepare for a prez bid in '08 and that probally only leaves Frist as a serious contender. I don't see Cheney running I think he knows his health cannnot handle it and Condi has said she would not run.

Now that my armchair anylasis is here I don't think none of the moderates can win the nomination unless the base vote gets split between the likes of Alan and Frist which I see as very possible. Whoever the nomination is I think Condi would be the best VP pick. For a moderate nominee she would give a popular, true conservative on the ticket for a traditional republican she would cut into the dems base a bit.

In short I don't think Hillary is no joke even as she give me a good laugh sometimes. I think Condi will be the key to winning in '08. I know its a ways off but its fun to speculate.

[riverman]

Bush beat Kerry by about 5 million votes and unless the republicans actually revive and run Adolf Hitler himself or some complete moron The liberal bitch hillary will lose by twice what Kerry did.

[LiberalsAreBabyKillers!]

I REALLY hope that the republicans don't nominate Giuliani, I can't stand that guy calling himself a republican, he is against me on my top issue, abortion and is is also pro-gay marriage and pro-gun control. ick. That doesn't look too good for me as he is ahead in the polls followed b the second worst, John McCain (however, McCain is pro-life). What is the republican party coming to. I can only hope and pray for hearts to change and become more radical right, also, I hope that Giuliani doesn't run at all, and McCain for that matter. I just hope the polls are wrong. Say, can anyone tell me who the most radical right candidate likley to run is, cause they got my vote (I will be 18 just in time to vote, I am very excited). On the subject of Hillary, I don't think she's a serious oponnent. despite the fact that Giuliani is leading in the polls, it seems the more right that the republican candidate goes, the larger the margin of victory in the polls over the dem's frontrunner, Hillary herself.

[Bumblebee]

I don't think Condi would make a good president myself. Not cause shes a woman or a hispanic, but I just don't think she IS qualified. She needs more experience in the political arena first. I can't really think of anyone who would get nominated otherwise, though, so I guess that if she won the nomination I'd support her. Shed be better than Hillary by a longshot.
Condi is not Hispanic, she is black and she is more qualified then any woman in modern politics. Go to your website and check her out. You will be astonished at her qualifications.

[Bumblebee]

I REALLY hope that the republicans don't nominate Giuliani, I can't stand that guy calling himself a republican, he is against me on my top issue, abortion and is is also pro-gay marriage and pro-gun control. ick. That doesn't look too good for me as he is ahead in the polls followed b the second worst, John McCain (however, McCain is pro-life). What is the republican party coming to. I can only hope and pray for hearts to change and become more radical right, also, I hope that Giuliani doesn't run at all, and McCain for that matter. I just hope the polls are wrong. Say, can anyone tell me who the most radical right candidate likley to run is, cause they got my vote (I will be 18 just in time to vote, I am very excited). On the subject of Hillary, I don't think she's a serious oponnent. despite the fact that Giuliani is leading in the polls, it seems the more right that the republican candidate goes, the larger the margin of victory in the polls over the dem's frontrunner, Hillary herself.
The most to the right, is Newt Gingrich. It looks to me like he is setting up for a run.

[Wadi66]

Condi has education up to ying yang but that doesn't make her qualified for President. She could be a VP though. In fact, if sometime this year Cheney were to step out of the VP spot and Bush appointed Condi in his place, THEN Condi could start amassing the experience she would need to be considered electable as Pres. That would catch the Dems flat footed. Right now they are banking on Hillary going up against a male candidate. Every potential democratic candidate is taking a back seat to her. She's busy raising money and modifying her position to appear less radical.

In fact Hillary making a bid for Pres. is why the Dems booted Dean out of the primary, he was making serious headway against Bush. Had he kept that up, he could have won and been able to run for a second term. That would have put Hillary out of the public eye for too long. People would cease to identify her as being part of the Clinton "legacy". Voters would say, "yeah she was there, but what did she do besides be the wife of the Pres."

A Condi/Clinton fight would be the supreme cat fight. Hillary couldn't count on the Black vote which she needs. Both would be after the women's vote. That may be a draw or Condi just slightly ahead. Men who are swing voters would favor Condi just because men usually aren't drawn to women like Hillary. She's a serious turn off.

Giuliani? Not as Pres. Now if Condi ran as Pres (after serving VP for a couple years) and Giuliani ran as her VP, that would take a serious bite out of the NE (especially New York) vote for Hillary. The one thing missing would be someone to get the Southern vote.

Any of you hear of Dick Morris? Some like him, some don't, but I tell ya, that man knows what it takes to win an election. I figured Hillary would make a serious contender and Morris who knows the Clinton's extremely well has gone on record saying "don't underestimate Hillary. If she runs, it'll be a tough fight."

EDIT: There is a strong possibility that Mark Warner - D, governor of Virginia, will be tapped as a Presidential Candidate if Hillary isn't successful in changing her image.

[ptruble]

I pray to God that Hillary doesn't win, but you can never underestimate the power of liberal propaganda, the fact that they will have the liberal media machine behind them, and the fact that 51% of the population is female. If she does it right, Hillary has the potential to steal the election, because most Americans are just not real intelligent. Most remember the 90's as good for their wallets noit for his sexual misconduct and whitewater. And anyway, its something like 40% of all marriages have some level of adultery in them.

To win, Iraq has to be wrapping up or making great progress, there has to be a strong economy, which the dems will try to undermine, and there has to be a republican candidate that appeals to broad American audience but with strong conservative values. A tall order.

Lastly, I will say this, that over the past years of republican control people who would be considered "right-wing radicals" have been quiet, of course. But, if Madame Clinton becomes President she will probably not make it through her first year. There is an arm of the country's right that could never allow a pseudo-socialist into the White House, expecially a woman with the past she carries with her. That spells trouble on a much wider scale for America. And, all of us need to fight that power and work to re-elect a republican to office in '08.

[aequitas_justice]

For all you who say "no" to Dr. Rice, at least in '08, don't worry, she wont be running. I don't blame her, I wouldn't want to be president, either. But for all you who want her to run here's a site for ya: http://www.rice2008.com/

[Avid_Liberal_Hater]

EDIT: There is a strong possibility that Mark Warner - D, governor of Virginia, will be tapped as a Presidential Candidate if Hillary isn't successful in changing her image.

In Virginia, Warner has done an amazing job with the economy. We were in the red a few years ago and now we're one of the few states in the black. We've actually got a surplus.

He comes off to me as a moderate, slightly left of center, which would be better than Hillary.

One thing he did here, though, that pissed me off a while back is he had our State Police start giving minorities information after they were pulled and ticketed about how to call and complain if they felt they were victimized by racism during their traffic stop. It's shit like that that makes me hate Dimocrats.

[HOKIEHUNTER]

uhoh, Warner can't run for the Democrats. He's a wealthy business owner that PRIVATELY made all his money and used his BUSINESS prescence to get political standing and into public office. He's not eligible.

Ahh, but Mark Warner is the Reason my college tution has almost doubled to tripled since I started school 3 yeasrs ago. He's the reason good professors are leaving VT b/c we don't get any funding. He may have gotten us into the ACC, but he's hurting our academics tremendously.

edited b/c i hit quote instead of reply

[Bumblebee]

I just read that Bush will back John McCain for president in 2008.
If any of you are worried about Hillary, McCain is the one that can
beat her. I don't particularly like him since he's seems to side with
Democrats overmuch, but I'll pick the one who can beat any Democrat
running for president.

[OmegaRed]

Frist is going to win the republican seat.
Rummy will move in vp roll

[HOKIEHUNTER]

While I do like the way Rummy handles the media, I don't always approve of his policies. and honestly if it were john mccain versus joe liberman, i would definetly vite joe the jew over liberal ass rep. monachered (spelling) mccain. Joe is the only high ranking democrat I have much faith in, but he'd never get the nomination. I personally think senator allen from VA would be an excellent choice b/c he has always served his constituents well.

[redwinger13]

Why Rummy in '08

1) We could finally attack Canada. ( a bunch of p*ssies already, thinking their so bad with there ford trucks with shotguns on top, and police ride ponies and are afraid to carry guns)

2) Rummy rules with power and not money. ( The way it should be)

3) Will continue to slaughter the animals that worship Islam and would allow pissing on that crappy book called the Koran. (It is a romantic dream)

4) A your with us or against us attidude.

5) Will allow slaughtering of hippies. (Always a big favorite of mine.)

6) Bomb more countries then I can count

I say impeach Bush let's get Rummy into office now

[All American Kid]

Ahh, but Mark Warner is the Reason my college tution has almost doubled to tripled since I started school 3 yeasrs ago. He's the reason good professors are leaving VT b/c we don't get any funding. He may have gotten us into the ACC, but he's hurting our academics tremendously.


Mark Warner is tax and spend liberal no doubt. If it wan't for the republicans in the general assembly he'd probally try to revamp the car tax.

I must give the man credit though. I think that raising the tuition was good economics. He knows how to run a buisness. If your in debt you obvoiusly need to increase your income preferbly where you can keep prices competative. Well check out this link http://www.explorevirginiacolleges.com/Students/02-03VATuitionFeeBrief4StudentsParents.asp?from=Explo reVirginiaColleges you'll see that VA tuition cost in comparision with other states on average has fell. Also you will see in comparision of schools of the same stature in which in many cases we have the lower cost.

funny, I thought you where a Wahoo. But then again I probally should've known better, C-ville went for Kerry by 74%.

[HOKIEHUNTER]

haha yeah i didn't really realize my name could be misconstrued until after I already signed up. I'm just hokie that enjoys hunting.

I guess what kills me is that with this tuition increase I did not get anymore federal loans (yes loans not handouts) while other minorities did. I'm paying my own way to college and tution hikes kinda hurt. I thought i'd have enough money to live off my summer jobs, but when prices go up i lose study time b/c i have to work. Which would you chose a car designed by an engineer that spent spare time mastering his field or a car designed by an engineer that had to spend his extra time working in food service b/c tuition rose?

Alcohol and tobacco purchases need to be taxed more heavily instead of education. They are luxuries that people are gonna buy anyway (b/c they're addicted).