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grant
06-03-2005, 01:54 PM
J. Grant Swank, Jr.

Democratic National Party Chairman Howard Dean upped his hate speech -
typical, expected, inflammatory, damaging. But does he care? Not a twit.
Not.

Therefore, when Dean gave forth with speeches recently around the country,
he hit hard. There was no wiggle room for respectability. With such
harangues, the Dems continue to bury themselves. Individuals who like to
play fair - even in politics - are repulsed by such cheap mouthing.

However, when you're a Howard Dean, all that madness comes innately. It's
part of his persona. He was born with it, in other words. Therefore, the
Dems, knowing what they were getting when they made him Chairman, are
getting just what they deserve - nothing constructive, all destructive.

Instead of rationally formulating concepts and programs that do the
nation's business well, Dean slaps and slams. American could never work
daily from the White House in such backward diatribe mode.

Yet with all the warnings the Dems have been handed from various quarters,
they continue to continue on the downward path, Dean hosting the way.

Jill Lawrence, USA TODAY, calls it "his trademark red-meat rhetoric." Dean
calls Republicans "corrupt," "brain-dead," "mean."

He said, "'They are not nice people.'" That was broadcast in a radio
talkabout on Air American Minnesota, according to the political newsletter
Hotline.

According to USA TODAY, "Last weekend he said House Majority Leader Tom
DeLay, R-Texas, whose associates are under investigation but who has not
been charged with anything, should go home to Houston to 'serve his jail
sentence' at Texas expense.

"At the same time, Dean tells Democrats they need to 'respect people in
all 50 states' and try to win them over. 'We need to talk to people from
our hearts,' he told California Democrats."

It seems to me that the Dems, led by Dean, are doing just that. But what
can you say to America in red-white-and-blue when your heart is black with
soot?

FightinDaMan
06-03-2005, 02:04 PM
The hypocrisy of criticising dean for "hate speech" on a site called "ihateliberals.com" is astounding.

HOKIEHUNTER
06-03-2005, 02:25 PM
last time i checked none of use were public figures leading our repective parties. rules kinda change when you're in that position

FightinDaMan
06-03-2005, 02:34 PM
Rank and file liberals seem to get just as much criticism for being vehement and divisve.

Black_Bloc
06-03-2005, 02:41 PM
Rank and file liberals seem to get just as much criticism for being vehement and divisve.


You are joking? Right? Remember Lott and what happened to him? Remember Dobbs and how he was praised? Liberals are hypocrites, they bash the right for saying something but turn around and say the same thing that the right just said. Look at Bush's Social Security Plan. Democrats bash it now but when Clinton was in office every damn liberal was for privatization of Social Security.

So NO, rank and file, liberals DO NOT get just as much criticism for being vehement and divisve.

IHL
06-03-2005, 03:15 PM
FDM, surely you are not equating a web site run by one guy with the leader of the DNC?

I think even you would agree, as HokieHunter states, that when you are in a position of prominence like Dean is, you would be expected to act with at least a modicum of respect. Well, unless you are a liberal and a lunatic like Howard Dean.

I appreciate the implication that this web site is as influential as the chairman of the DNC, but I'm afraid that probably isn't the case.

However, as I've stated before, Howard Dean is the best thing that's happened to us. He can continue to call Republicans "evil, "corrupt", and "brain-dead" (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/24/AR2005042401160.html). He can continue to say the most Republicans "have never worked an honest day in their life". He can finally put the public face on the Democrats that has been hiding for years. Your base will love it. The far left will rally in the streets and be beside themselves with joy as Dean insults and degrades the Republicans. Most of America however, will see it for what it is... a left wing radical nut job who is completely out of touch with the main stream.

Let me remind you of something. Remember during the early days of campaigning last year when Howard Dean had an enormous lead in the polls? Why do you suppose that is? Well, I'm glad you asked. He had that lead because these same left wing wackos that Dean was appealing to simply adored him. He was full of hate, full of rage, and basically just full of shit. These people would have supported anything he said. They are the people that worship the farthest of the left - they are Dean's "amen choir". Anything he says, they will scream "Amen!!". They followed him around long before the average American showed any interest in the election. But - as the election drew near and more normal, rational people started paying attention, they said, "who is the fruitcake?" And he quickly sank back into the slim hole he came from and disappeared from the radar. He had no chance of winning except among the ultra liberals like one of his biggest supporters, Janeane Garafalo, host for the ailing Air-Amerika radio network.

Thats' all fine and Howard Dean would have disappeared forever if normal Americans had anything to say about it. But instead what happened is that the elected libs like Barbara Boxer, Teddy Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi also loved Howard Dean. Makes sense when you think about - they are almost as delusional as he is. So they come up with the grand scheme that Howard Dean would make a great DNC chairman and a liberal star is born.

I love it. Dean will almost single handedly do the same thing to the liberals in general that he did to his own campaign. I'm just surprised the smarter liberals (ok, that's an oxymoron but follow me on this) haven't accused us of a conspiracy theory by planting Howard Dean in that position.

Liberals - ya gotta love 'em.

Count Rugen
06-03-2005, 03:17 PM
Are you the same J. Grant Swank appearing on conservative opinion sites across the web? If so, I have a question. Where do you get the quotes you use in your stories? The reason I'm asking is, if you're a full time pastor you can't really fly around the country doing interviews, so I was wondering if there's a quote pool you guys use or if you're just pulling quotes off AP stories and making them fit your opinion pieces.
Thanks for the answer.

Oh, and Howard Dean's job is to outrage Democrats into giving money to the Democratic party. It's a tool Ken Melhman would use, if he didn't have Coulter, Limbaugh and O'Reilly doing the job for him.

IHL
06-03-2005, 03:24 PM
No, it's not a tool Melhman would use because it's not our style and it doesn't work. It just takes liberals a lot longer to figure it out.

Howard Dean's Raised Voice Isn't Raising Cash (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_23/c3936057_mz013.htm)

Count Rugen
06-03-2005, 03:30 PM
No, it's not a tool Melhman would use because it's not our style and it doesn't work.
You mean there's noone out there getting conservative's dander up? The truth is, conservatives haven't had to use these type of tools for a long time. They've had talk radio and internet "journalists" doing that for them (anydoby remember a guy named Guckert? Or maybe a series of VNR's passed off as news?).

Why do you think people are writing about Dean's comments on opinion sites? To make people mad and get them to give money or support to the Republican party. The Republican party has become the "angry" party. They can no longer present ideas, they can only yell about what others are doing. Look at this site, it's filled with people who only yell about what others are doing instead of lauding what conservatives are doing.

riverman
06-03-2005, 04:09 PM
with all the wackiness and outright stupidity and anger from democrats for losing big in the last election and you call the republicans an angry party?? what planet do you live on?? The democrats especially the far left fringe liberal dems are in serious meltdown. If they lose in the mid -terms their party is dead and they might as well just sit out '08. since 1994 the dems have been on a steady decline to the benefit of America . Republicans the angry party?? they are the party of hope and opportunity and freedom for everybody not just the few select "opressed" groups that the dems focus on. The democrats day of power in America is over and that makes republicans and me very ,very happy.
concering the liberals bashing Fox news and luminaries as Coulter and Limbaugh. I understand the jealousy ,I understand the dissapointment at the "mainstream media's" numbers tanking in the ratings , I understand the frustration that nobody wants to hear the same old liberal lies and dis-information. I understand that you on the left are very angry that the monopoly on information is over and nobody wants to hear it anymore. With Bill Moyers and Olberman(whose ratings are 1/10 of Fox's) and as your cheerleading section your game is up. All three of the "mainstream media's big guns bailed within the past six months or so. Thank God! Why do you think the rats left the sinking ships?? because nobody outside of a few fanatic liberals believe the drivel,lies and hypocrisy coming from the liberal media anymore and they have a choice and they are excercising that choice in record numbers. The liberal media has been lying to this country for years and now it is payback time.Cute little childish games like calling Fox news "faux " news just shows the immaturity and sore loser complex the silly left in America is famous for and another reason the left is festering in its own foul juices.

oh yeah and give me an example of "ideas" coming from the left other than of course that same old standards like taxes, gun control, and gay "marriage". Read the news- the dems have no ideas that is why they keep losing. therepubs have all the good ideas but the small minority of ding dong dems keep obstructing the good ideas coming from the Republicans. cheesh! look around you man -can't you see that what you are saying is so very wrong and out of touch???

Bumblebee
06-03-2005, 06:45 PM
You mean there's noone out there getting conservative's dander up? The truth is, conservatives haven't had to use these type of tools for a long time. They've had talk radio and internet "journalists" doing that for them (anydoby remember a guy named Guckert? Or maybe a series of VNR's passed off as news?).

Why do you think people are writing about Dean's comments on opinion sites? To make people mad and get them to give money or support to the Republican party. The Republican party has become the "angry" party. They can no longer present ideas, they can only yell about what others are doing. Look at this site, it's filled with people who only yell about what others are doing instead of lauding what conservatives are doing.
Where in the world did you get this backward theory?
Republicans aren't angry, we're the winners, did you forget?
The whole nation knows that Democrats haven't come up with any new ideas for so long, that I'm surprised it hasn't gone out with the Wig party. The Democrats have become nothing but obstructionists and the party is a whole mess. They can't even agree with each other.
Who do you think you're kidding?

rightwingxtremist
06-03-2005, 10:43 PM
The Republican party has become the "angry" party. They can no longer present ideas, they can only yell about what others are doing.

Have you been under a rock somewhere? I rather think we have some time-tested positive goals that we profess...

Freedom...

Prosperity...

Safety....

Opportunity...

The democratic talk that sticks out in my mind these days, when it isn't slamming our President, is about death: namely convenient baby killing and euthanasia.

Nah, all you 'crats can do is try to steal our thunder and use it against us, much like you're doing right now!

- Nate

OmegaRed
06-04-2005, 02:35 PM
Rank and file liberals seem to get just as much criticism for being vehement and divisve.



HaHaHa....You sure make good jokes. Here I have one too....

What do you call W. Mark Felt who blew the whistle on a Republican President? "Deep Throat" <---Media Loved
What do you call Linda Tripp who blew the whistle on a Democrat President?
"Deep Six" <---Media Hate

OmegaRed
06-04-2005, 02:51 PM
Come you guys, you are talking about a guy that strangles little innocent kittens


In the one picture where he is strangling one kitten, the kitten has no front legs and paws so Dean is an evil person who strangles little innocent handicapped kittens. It also looks like the kitten is a little too long. Is it a weiner kitten?

Avid_Liberal_Hater
06-06-2005, 09:19 AM
The hypocrisy of criticising dean for "hate speech" on a site called "ihateliberals.com" is astounding.

The difference is liberals are the ones who created the idea of 'hate speech' and continuously speak out against it, but so many of you are guilty of it all the time. Conservatives are not the ones preaching out against hate speech. Ihateliberals.com is very appropriate considering we are not the one's faking compassion.

"Hate speech" is a political tool used by Commie/libs to stifle conservative opposition. Conservatives use the term to expose a Commie/lib yet again of hypocracy.