View Full Version : Scozzafava vs. Hoffman
scarymary
10-27-2009, 11:56 AM
Has anyone been keeping up with this story? It is really quite interesting. Two candidates battling for the Repulican/conservative vote. One has been endorsed by Newt Gingrich and ACORN; the other by Sarah Palin, Fred Thompson, Pawlenty, and Forbes. Who do you think will win this one? It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
GERALD
10-27-2009, 01:03 PM
Has anyone been keeping up with this story? It is really quite interesting. Two candidates battling for the Repulican/conservative vote. One has been endorsed by Newt Gingrich and ACORN; the other by Sarah Palin, Fred Thompson, Pawlenty, and Forbes. Who do you think will win this one? It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Thanks for reporting on this.
Topiary Lady
10-27-2009, 02:06 PM
If nothing else, this will show us where we may be heading, as a country, in 2010 as well as in 2012.
Are the true patriots awake? Or, are we going to accept RINO's from now on?
Contribute ONLY to individual candidates who are worthy. Give NOTHING to the GOP until they stop presenting us with liberals in conservative clothing.
If you receive a solicitation for funding from the GOP - send it back with a note saying that you will contribute NOTHING to the party unless or until they start supporting Conservative candidates who are actually willing to uphold the United States Constitution.
I will not give another dime - NEVER to a Republican Party that promotes LIBERALS as "our" candidates. I mean it. Not one dime. Not even a penny - never. I WILL give to individual candidates who genuinely hold conservative ideals.
For the liberals who lurk here (and you know who you are) don't think that this is a win for you (Marxists) - it isn't. So don't fill the bong with all that fresh water just yet.
WhiteAfricanAmerican
10-27-2009, 04:08 PM
Oooo that is a sticky one. Has Newt suddenly become liberal, or does he not want to back off of his endorsement, for fear of giving ACORN more power than they really have?
Aurelius
10-27-2009, 04:24 PM
I log on just to piss off TL. I KNOW WHO I AM!!!!
Topiary Lady
10-27-2009, 04:56 PM
^
You flatter yourself too much. Piss me off? LOL. More like: Amusing the TL. :biggrin:
Maybe you have not caught on yet.
conservativecanadian
10-27-2009, 05:03 PM
link to the two candidates please?
Bumblebee
10-27-2009, 05:52 PM
I think Rush Limbaugh explains this well, especially about the 3ed party.
Video ➔http://www.therightscoop.com/according-to-rush-there-is-no-third-party-issue-with-ny-23/
Bumblebee
10-27-2009, 05:57 PM
Fred Thompson ad...
➔http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/27/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5425114.shtml
conservativecanadian
10-27-2009, 06:05 PM
im gonna have to go with newt on this, a party should be all inclusive, thiers room for everyone in a conservative political party, if they disagree on some issues, then so what. its not really a big deal
WhiteAfricanAmerican
10-27-2009, 06:35 PM
Problem occurs when once faction feels they represent the voice of 'true conservatism' (actually this applies to any 'all inclusive' party) and seeks to cram thei agenda down the throats of others.
Now, before Aurelius becomes to excatic and starts screaming 'I told you so', let me point out that this problem swings in many directions with many degrees of velocity, as such no one is expemt from it.
scarymary
10-27-2009, 08:43 PM
im gonna have to go with newt on this, a party should be all inclusive, thiers room for everyone in a conservative political party, if they disagree on some issues, then so what. its not really a big deal
The female candidate was a supporter of the stimulus package, a supporter of card check, has been endorsed by ACORN, and I'm sure she has countless other flaws. Here is a little photo op that went horribly wrong:
http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/ny-23-scozzafava-photo-op-goes-horribly-wrong/
Bumblebee
10-27-2009, 09:28 PM
Yeah, I've been hearing all kinds of stuff about Scozzafava, and she sounds like a real leftist. That's the real reason Hoffman is getting endorsed by so many conservatives, it's obvious.
Here is a nice interview at Fox News with Hoffman.
➔http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrEq-2D2e2I&feature=player_embedded
scarymary
10-27-2009, 09:39 PM
Personally, I believe Newt dropped the ball on this one. I don't even know why he bothered to open his pie hole on this one. He is out of touch with main stream America.
im gonna have to go with newt on this, a party should be all inclusive, thiers room for everyone in a conservative political party, if they disagree on some issues, then so what. its not really a big dealSo should this inclusive conservative party include those people who believe in tax increases, global warming, pro-union, and ObamaCare... should we let them in too?
I don't believe there is room for such 'conservatives'. These people have destroyed the Republican party. We need people who oppose all of those things. It people like them - Olympia Snowe for example, that help to bring about the liberal agenda under the guise of bipartisanship.
Newt is wrong on this in my opinion. This Scozzafava woman has no place in the Republican party. She needs to be made an example of and defeated. It is stunts like this that keep me from better supporting the Republican party. And until they figure out what a true Republican is, I won't support them.
scarymary
10-27-2009, 10:20 PM
Well said, boss. You are on target.
Bumblebee
10-27-2009, 11:00 PM
He's running as a 3ed party in this 'special election', but Hoffman really is a Republican.
Have a looky where huge chunks of her donations are coming from. This says it all...
➔http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00463976/437695/
Source: Politico
Bumblebee
10-27-2009, 11:14 PM
I wonder why this woman didn't join the Democrat Party?:confused:?
GOP Candidate Scozzafava, Husband Have Ties to Union-Backed ACORN Front
➔http://www.nlpc.org/stories/2009/10/26/gop-candidate-scozzafava-husband-have-ties-union-backed-acorn-front
scarymary
10-27-2009, 11:37 PM
There is also an interesting gubernatorial race happening in Virginia. From what I understand, the Republican candidate is winning at the moment.
conservativecanadian
10-27-2009, 11:46 PM
"So should this inclusive conservative party include those people who believe in tax increases, global warming, pro-union, and ObamaCare... should we let them in too?"
i am not saying this woman in general, but im pointing to the fact that he is endorsing a candidate that most people wouldnt agree with, thats what i applaud in this scenario, the fact that even though he may disagree with her on a lot of things, he believes she is the best one for the job. thiers room for many people in the party, if a candidate is pro choice, but stays to the right on other issues, that one difference of opinion should not disqualify him or her from calling themselves a republican
Dr. Madd
10-28-2009, 08:32 AM
When ACORN endorses an opponent's candidate, BEWARE! I'll side with Fred Thompson on this one.
scarymary
10-28-2009, 09:04 AM
Scozzafava is no more a Republican than Nancy Pelosi. That is why the Republican party is in such disarray right now. Newt is wrong on this. He has apparently lost touch with the conservative base of the party if he believes that this woman could be labeled a conservative. She might be a Republican, but she is far from being a conservative.
CC, I believe you are missing what Newt is saying.............in that he does agree with this woman on the issues, and to me it appears that he believes in party over principle.
Topiary Lady
10-28-2009, 10:45 AM
Oooo that is a sticky one. Has Newt suddenly become liberal, or does he not want to back off of his endorsement, for fear of giving ACORN more power than they really have?
Something is wrong with Newt. No actual conservative would ahve ever made that ridiculous global warming commercial sitting along side Nancy Pelosi. If that action alone didn't send up red flags for everyone, then I don't know what else to say.
Now he's backing this very leftist candidate. Why?
Money corrupts. If I had my guess, I'd say that Newt has quietly decided to ride the Democrat gravy train - the one that only makes hard left turns.
No more Newt. No more RINO's. No more compromise either.
The Chairman and his ilk are hitting too hard. And they have been able to pull it off because of the weakness of the GOP. The weakness comes from those in the party who are not conservative.
Not only is Scozzafava wrong for the GOP - but at this point, Newt is wrong for the party as well.
scarymary
10-28-2009, 10:50 AM
I remember having suspicions about that commercial as well, TL. Yeah, there is definitely something fishy going on with that. I have to wonder what it is about conservative that the Republican party doesn't understand, and obviously Newt has failed to see the distinction.
Topiary Lady
10-28-2009, 11:16 AM
He knows. He's just trying to play all sides.
They know the country is going down and they are all out to try and snuggle up to anyone that they may benefit from. It's self preservation at the cost of personal integrity. That's how I see it.
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