Celebrate the 4th of July with a Liberal

[DoubleU]

How is the American hating, pro socialist left going to celebrate the Forth of July?

Click here (http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/150975/index.php) and here (http://chicago.indymedia.org/newswire/display/57575/index.php) to find out.

Can you despise the left any more? I am sure our good buddy chi will be at the Chicago meeting.

[chi1088]

Oh you bet...Let's light some flags on fire. Let's burn some Bush cardboard stand-ups. Let's throw firebombs into houses. Pure anarchy. Whoo hoo!

DoubleU, you're friggin' hilarious. Man keep up the bullshit; that's what I love about coming to this site.

[Caleb]

Son, you just don't get it. These people who are burning the flag on this great nations Independence Day are idiots. What gives them the power to burn the flag...the flag. Since God gives me my power and strength maybe I should burn His Icons.

[FightinDaMan]

I'm not gonna debate whether or not they're idiots, but the fact of the matter is they are not a part of the mainstream Liberal movement.

[DoubleU]

I'm not gonna debate whether or not they're idiots, but the fact of the matter is they are not a part of the mainstream Liberal movement.

They are the base of the liberals.

[FightinDaMan]

Anarchists are the liberal base? This makes sense to you? People who want no government are the base for the people who want huge government? That has to be the biggest load of BS ever.

[Caleb]

Sorry to correct but Anarchists do believe in the government role.

[FightinDaMan]

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy


Anarchy (New Latin anarchia) is a term that has several usages, some of which may be contradictory. Specific meanings include

1. Absence of any form of state, coercive political authority, or coercive social hierarchy.
2. Absence of a ruler, ruling class, ruling political party or parties, or power elite.
3. Political disorder and confusion.
4. "The Anarchy" is the name given a period of civil war and unsettled government in England during the reign of King Stephen of England.
5. Specific publications titled "Anarchy." See Publications.

Try again slick.

[Caleb]

Sorry to correct but Anarchists do believe in the government role.

Is there a leader in the Anarchist? Yes
Do member of an Anarchist group have different roles? Yes
Do member carry seniority over others? Yes



So try again slick

[FightinDaMan]

Sorry to correct but Anarchists do believe in the government role.

Is there a leader in the Anarchist? Yes
Do member of an Anarchist group have different roles? Yes
Do member carry seniority over others? Yes



So try again slick

Question one: No
Question two: Different members can take different roles without having a government.
Question three: No.

I'm not sure what anarchist organizations you're referring to, but I don't know of any where there are defined leaders or "senior" members with more privileges than others.

[Caleb]

The organization in which I am referring to is any and all Anarchists. You saying Anarchists don't believe in a government form is like saying an atheist
doesn't believ in a god.

[FightinDaMan]

HAHA. Okay, as long as we're clear on that.

edit: it shouldn't have taken me this long to figure out you were a joke account. I guess I'm getting slow in my old age.

[Caleb]

Atheist just want a seperation of Church and State. A lot of atheist have very strong religious values. The founder Madalyn Murray O’Hair was a believer in her own religion before she was found dead. Atheists have an intense interest in religions.

[FightinDaMan]

If you are serious, then you dont' seem to understand the meaning of the word atheist.

[Caleb]

Atheism is the accepted life style of Atheists. Let's look at the word Atheism. This is a word of Greek or Latin derivation and, if you know your grammar, and we presume that you do, an "a" or an "in" used before any word simply takes away the thrust of that word. For instance, the word "independent" simply means "free from dependency." Also, the word "Atheism" simply means "free from theism," The word "agnostic" simply means free from gnostic, or knowledge.... Therefore, Atheism is freedom from theism, freedom from religion. An Atheist is a person who lives his life free from entanglement with religious ideas, only that and nothing more. Whatever the monkey on your back is, we are all free from that. We are free from all theistic ideas whether they are christian, hindu, islamic, jew, voodoo, or taoistic.


All that means is they don't follow mainstream religion they except that a god does exist such as that tree outside exist. Remember I said god, not God

[redwinger13]

To The One Who Sucks and DaMan.

Anarchists do follow a select government. Hell they ever have the 11 commandments of sorts.


And dont Atheists believe in some supernatual being not a god but a force? Thats what the websites like Atheist America and their TV commercial sound like to me

[FightinDaMan]

Atheist means one who does not believe in a god. You are correct that it comes from the roots for god "theos" (or something like that) and "a" without.

[Count Rugen]

I plan to celebrate the 4th of July with my family and friends. We'll have some hotdogs and burgers, watch some fireworks and I'll end the day in prayer, thanking God that I live in the US.
Why can't you people understand that fringe liberals to the left are the same as the KKK to the right. They're both stupid and barely connected to the mainstream of the ideology they practice.

[Avid_Liberal_Hater]

Why can't you people understand that fringe liberals to the left are the same as the KKK to the right. They're both stupid and barely connected to the mainstream of the ideology they practice.

I think the fringe liberals are a little more connected to the mainstream than you care to admit.

[Count Rugen]

I think the fringe liberals are a little more connected to the mainstream than you care to admit.
And I'll defend to the death your right to think that, and I'll fight with every breath to show you you're wrong.

There is no speach, outside that which causes people to commit acts of violence, that should be banned. That's what the ACLU defends everyday.

[FightinDaMan]

I think the fringe liberals are a little more connected to the mainstream than you care to admit.

Anarchists aren't even fringe liberals. Democratic socialists are fringe liberals, anarchists aren't connected to the mainstream at all.

[Caleb]

Anarchists aren't connected to the mainstream at all.


That's bad wording...if anarchists aren't connected to the mainstream at all...then what are they fighting against. If anarchists aren't connected to the mainstream at all...the they are not anarchists.

[FightinDaMan]

*rolls eyes* I think you and everybody else understood my point. Anarchists do not associate or agree with mainstream liberals and their positions. In fact, these things are what they are actively fighting against. That is why it is ludicrous to call anarchists liberals.

[Caleb]

But in the long run anarchists either agree strongly with liberals or they agree in principle in a watered down version. This is not on the bases of government but on the base of ideas....

[FightinDaMan]

Would you care to give an example?