Should Women Be Allowed in Ground Combat

[Jimbo]

sure, jail is necessary if she attacked you, but you wouldn't kill her as i think you are a decent man

If a terrorist who happens to be a woman shoots at me in that type of scenario, yes, I would fire back, just as I would if it were a male terrorist.

While I agree with you in principle that I hate to see women dieing, it really isn't your choice whether or not they go to war. The same type of freedom to live how you want that Homosexuals use can be applied to this. If a woman wants to serve her country then she should be allowed to. Denying her this is only an insult to her intelligence.

[lionheart]

Yes, unfortunatly it is true. If it was my case and if the shooting female was near and I was able to duck behind something to shoot nonvital organs arms/legs/shoulders/thighs to disable the woman for a certain time i would. In anycase I would approach slowly when the subject is down after telling her to throw the weapon, cough her hands and move her to a safe area and call for peremedics. As most people would not die immediatly from one shot which is good. Who knows, maybe she would be helpful later, give you useful information and be on your side because you took the risk and kept her alive. Or in other words, you can say you saved her life which will be also something good for the media and gives the country a good human touch :icon_wink

[IHL]

If it was my case and if the shooting female was near and I was able to duck behind something to shoot nonvital organs arms/legs/shoulders/thighs to disable the woman for a certain time i would. In anycase I would approach slowly when the subject is down after telling her to throw the weapon, cough her hands and move her to a safe area and call for peremedicsWell lionheart, welcome to the site. I hate to jump on you right out of the gate, but I must.

I do find it a ironic that you use the name lionheart - I don't think you are. The above quote is spoken like a true pacifist and someone who has never been in a gun fight. If you are in a life and death battle, and you have a woman shooting at your head and all you can think about it "ok, this is a girl shooting at me - aren't they sweet - I think I'll just try to wound her, maybe scare her into not trying to blow my head off. Or maybe I can just shoot her in her pretty little leg, then nicely walk up and request she put down her weapon and call for help for her." You'll be dead where you stand. Here is the deal and how a real man would handle the situation. A female combatant is shooting an you and your fellow soldiers. What do you do? You shoot her right between the eyes the first chance you get. Dead. If you shoot her once and she moves, you blast her again. Period. There is no time for playing Mr. Niceguy. And don't give me this "fairer sex" BS - she is out to kill you. You may not care about yourself, but she'll shoot the guy next to you just as quick. And I can tell you this - if I'm in battle with you and you have a chance to take her out and you don't, and she goes on to kill one of our men because you were too much of a pussy to kill her, I'd kill you myself.

I'd rather have her on my squad than you. Your attitude will get our people killed.

Having said that - I don't think women should be in combat at all. Sure, in theory if they can perform as well as men, fine. But let's look at reality. As a rule, they can't. There are exceptions to be sure, but just like the police and fire departments, the standards are changed for woman. The bar is lowered and we can't afford that. Woman have their places in the military, and I'm not talking about nurses and cooks. I'm talking about critical support roles. But the vast, vast majority of woman can not handle direct field combat. It's just the way it is.

[All American Kid]

I voted no primarily for the reason that we need to maintain a combat ready force at all times with quick mobilization. I feel that including women in a primary combat role will hamper this is because during war time training is speed up when I went through basic in 90 the next cycle was decreased to 5 wks training to mobilize troops. Now studies show that women with training can lift and perform the same physical duties as men however it takes 15 wks of training to achieve that level of strength thus hindering the flow of fresh troops.

Secondly sexual excursions will take place. Don't think so? Well explain the pregnancies in Iraq (http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20040615-115647-8125r.htm). You now have a soldier that can no longer fulfill her duties at least not without liability that you have to tie up resources to move out and fill that position.

These are of several reasons. I haven't seen suicide rates mentioned yet but consider that the highest rate is among women in this country, with men the highest group are combat vets. Now project how high the rate will jump among women when they are introduced to combat.

[Goose]

Everyday palestininan casualities in the news.
Lionheart, here is a link to the pallywood thread (http://www.theamericanright.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1924&highlight=pallywood). You'll find a link to the two pallywood videos; I recommend you watch them both.

[lionheart]

If you are in a life and death battle, and you have a woman shooting at your head

In this case I would duck and shoot at the same time. To move your head by ducking fast to eliminate head shot, and shoot to stop, but not a head shot. A body shot is actually easier if you are moving fast/ducking. What is important is to disable, not to kill. Then you can shoot her arm or shoulder if she is down to stop her if you see danger. If she becomes disabled and you kill her after that it would be brutal murder because she would already be helpless. You can simply cuff her after she is disabled and she would be no harm. Then you could call the medics.


You shoot her right between the eyes the first chance you get. Dead. If you shoot her once and she moves, you blast her again.

If she moves her hand to cover her wound after she was down, it would be cruel to shoot her again as she is already disabled. In the case that she is down, her movement would be sluggish so you would have the advantage of time. On another case, if she moves her weapon to shoot you, you would have the time advantage to shoot her non lethally with ease before she can shoot. With that second non lethal arm/shoulder shooting she would definitely be sluggish in movement/disabled in the sense that you can stop and cuff her without trouble. Then time will be on your hand and you can call the medics


Lionheart, here is a link to the pallywood thread. You'll find a link to the two pallywood videos; I recommend you watch them both.

Thanks, I'll check these tommorrow (slow internet now).

[IHL]

Remind me never to go into battle with you. We aren't talking war games, we are talking life and death - literally kill or be killed. There isn't time for your analysis when bullets are flying. It's that simple. Your humane tactics are fine and dandy in theory but when the time is at hand, you have to act.

I'm not going to beat this hypothetical case to death but I'll just say this: The bullet that kills you doesn't care if it is shot from the hand of a man or woman. If the person on the other end of the gun is a woman, I'll shoot her just as fas as if it is a man. If its a 12 year old boy or girl, same story. I'd probably feel bad about having to kill a child but war is hell and I'd rather save lives by killing an enemy than watch more of our own get killed. That is the humane way.

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

As I've already pointed out a few months ago on this thread, women can and do serve in combat roles in Israel. They are more than capable.

What strikes me as interesting is that lionheart, whom by his own admission has never fired a weapon in defence of his country or life, seems to think that there is a nice coherant order in which this exchange of fire is handled.

He sees it as something out of a movie. Which by his own admission is where he gets most of his experience from. A movie where every 'shot' fired and every movement is choreographed.

Hands up, how many of you here have been in a fist fight? Hands up how many of you were in a fight that flowed exactly the same manner that a fist fight occurs in the movies.

This is why people like lionheart get on my last tit. It amounts to nothing more than someone trying to do brain surgery after watching General Hospital.

I'm also begining to wonder if lionheart is a woman. There's something about the manner in which lionheart frames his/her responses that doesn't sound like a man. In fact I'm begining to wonder if lionheart isn't a feminazi.

[All American Kid]

SF I agree with the specifics of your post but when we need to mobilize in a quick fast and a hurry who has time to pick and choose. You need to go with the general rules of thumb that men know more about guns then pom poms, don't mind bashing the enemy in the nose and can tote a 75lb rucksack for X amount of miles. As for the slackers, the foot soldiers themselves have a way of dealing with that bunch.

[Madcowhunter]

lionheart…
Again, Palestine was not a country. It didn’t have government, borders, or any sort of order. It was just a loose name given to the piece of land that was once controlled by the Ottoman Empire. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the British Empire and the USSR took control of it’s territories in the Middle East; the British controlled the area known as Palestine. The British Empire had long anticipated the return of the Jews to their homeland area (Palestine).
"There exists at the present time among the Jews dispersed over Europe a strong notion that the time is approaching when their nation is to return to Palestine. It would be of manifest importance to the Sultan to encourage the Jews to return and settle in Palestine because the wealth that they would bring with them would increase the resources of the Sultan's dominions, and the Jewish people if returning under the sanction and protection at the invitation of the Sultan would be a check upon any future evil designs of Egypt or its neighbours. I wish to instruct your Excellency strongly to recommend to the Turkish government to hold out every just encouragement to the Jews of Europe to return to Palestine."-Viscount Palmertson http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/judeochr/rolegent/prozion.html (http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/judeochr/rolegent/prozion.html)
The Palestine Mandate was created (as agreed upon the League of Nations); it was a document stating the British goal of establishing the Jewish state while protecting the Palestinian rights at the same time. Little by little, Jews began to immigrate Palestine at no cost from the Palestinians (11% of the Palestinian population was already Jewish); it was a peaceful immigration. But the Palestinians resorted to violent opposition, and promoted violent attacks on peaceful Jewish immigrants. Palestinians killed innocent Jews, and destroyed Jewish settlements. The Haganah was formed (the Jewish settlement military force) to protect the Jews from vicious Arab attacks; the Haganah was entirely defensive in nature, and the Palestinians were the aggressors. Both Great Britain and the United Nations made several attempts to reconcile the Jewish and Arab settlements, but Arab on Jew violence was increasing at a massive rate, and the British finally decided to withdraw from the Palestine Mandate. The 1947 UN Partition Plan was created; its goal was to divide the area into a Jewish State, and an Arab State. This successful plan resulted in the establishment of Israel and the Palestinian State. It was a fair plan, but the Arabs rejected it. Arab aggression rose to the state of Israel, and this erupted into the 1948 War of Independence. Arab armies from Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan invaded the state of Israel. Rather than go into detail of the war; Israel managed to drive off Arab forces and launched a counter assault. Israel had gained more land as a result of the war. This was a legitimate conquer; the Arabs attacked Israel first and suffered for it. If you honestly think that this is an example of Israel stealing land, then you are blind. In the late 60’s, Egypt, Syria, and Jordan had been building up weapons and showed obvious signs that they wanted war; Egypt had even banished UN Forces from the Gaza Strip. Israel responded with a preemptive strike on Egypt, leading to the 6-Day War which resulted in Israel legitimately conquering West Bank, the Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, and the Sinai Peninsula.
The Palestinians had their chance for land, but they blew it. And over the years, Israel has turned the land into a fully functional government, and a powerful US ally.
If you still think that the Palestinians are the victims… I suggest you look at some of these websites.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/TerrorAttacks.html (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/TerrorAttacks.html)
http://www.tzemachdovid.org/Facts/ (http://www.tzemachdovid.org/Facts/)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3256858.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3256858.stm)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/palterrortoc.html (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/palterrortoc.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Intifada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Intifada)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Intifada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Intifada)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lynch_in_Ramallah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lynch_in_Ramallah)
http://www.zombietime.com/bus_19_berkeley/ (http://www.zombietime.com/bus_19_berkeley/)
http://www.zombietime.com/bus_19_sf/ (http://www.zombietime.com/bus_19_sf/)

I am only angry at you because you despised this couragious young woman who was fighting the terror of israely demolishing which you may call "order" or "government". She was murdered and israel said they interviewed the driver and he said he didn't know. such bullsh*t. She didn't sprung from nowhere. How can you not hear a person screamming outside if he says he didn't even see her. How can he not see a person squeshed infront of him. What a lie. If he cannot see a woman in front of him how can he see the wall and door etc of the house he is domolishing. I bet he closes his eyes and drives. These are all lies.
Did you completely ignore my post? The man was driving an IDF Caterpillar D9 Bull Douser; this machine is massive, look it up. It has blind spots directly in front, on both sides (front and back), and in the rear. Rachel Corrie was standing directly in front of blade while obstructing it with debris. Don’t you understand? Not only was she in a blind spot, but she was behind debris to top it off.
Now look at the situation once again. This protester is standing in a security zone where Palestinian terrorists were receiving weapons from Egypt. The area was condemned by the IDF. She is rubbing shoulders with Arab terrorists while trying to illegally obstruct a military bull douser. Not only is she hidden by debris and blind spots, but the area is no doubt filled with commotion and clamor. The Caterpillar itself is a loud machine; mix this clamor with the sound of crumbling buildings, people yelling, and other vehicles. Now I ask you, how in the hell was the man supposed to hear her? You’re just grabbing for straws now my friend. Face it, these Palestinian terrorists are not the innocent people you think they are.

I'm not defending people who kill women. If a government is wrong or the army is wrong and kills women that doesn't mean the whole people of the nation are wrong. Arabs are not terrorists, brainwashing television might let a person think that way but its not true. You’re absolutely wrong. Normally terrorist attacks do not reflect the attitude of their government, but then again, we’re not dealing with any ordinary government. The government leaders of Palestine are an organization called the Hamas. They were fully involved with the first and second Intifadas, and openly support terrorism. The Palestinian government are terrorists! The Hamas are recognized by the United States, Israel, the United Nations, and the European Union to be a terrorist organization. And when a government openly supports the terrorist activities of their peers, then they become no different from the terrorists to begin with.

Then they added some spice by saying she was supporting terrorists to cover their crime. What a joke. They terrorize palestine, demolish their homes, steal their land, kill their people. And call those who try to defend their land terrorists. But she was supporting terrorists. You ignore me time and time again.
The area she was “protesting” at was deemed a security zone. Terrorist activity was going on there, and she helped defend it!
This only proves that know absolutely nothing about Israeli/Palestinian history. They could have had their land, but they rejected it and waged war on Israel. All of the land Israel has was legitimately conquered, and the blame can go to the aggressors: the Palestinians, the Egyptians, the Lebanese, the Jordanians, and the Syrians. If Palestine wants to be treated like the peace-loving country liberals seem to think they are, then I have a good idea…. Quit blowing shit up.

Yes, unfortunatly it is true. If it was my case and if the shooting female was near and I was able to duck behind something to shoot nonvital organs arms/legs/shoulders/thighs to disable the woman for a certain time i would. Are you kidding me? You do not shoot to “injure” or “disable”. You shoot to kill, period. This spineless attitude is exactly the thing that gets our soldiers killed, and it is entirely preventable.

In this case I would duck and shoot at the same time. To move your head by ducking fast to eliminate head shot, and shoot to stop, but not a head shot. A body shot is actually easier if you are moving fast/ducking. What is important is to disable, not to kill. Then you can shoot her arm or shoulder if she is down to stop her if you see danger. If she becomes disabled and you kill her after that it would be brutal murder because she would already be helpless. You can simply cuff her after she is disabled and she would be no harm. Then you could call the medics. Wow! Do you play a lot of video games? Well this isn’t Battlefield, Counterstrike, or Halo.

You fail to demonstrate a basic understanding of terrorism or war. I do not profess to be an expert in any of these, but this stuff is basic knowledge. May I ask a question? What country are you from?

[lionheart]

Remind me never to go into battle with you.

Yea, cause if I see someone kill a woman on purpose, I would probably shoot him.


I'm not going to beat this hypothetical case to death but I'll just say this: The bullet that kills you doesn't care if it is shot from the hand of a man or woman. If the person on the other end of the gun is a woman, I'll shoot her just as fas as if it is a man. If its a 12 year old boy or girl, same story. I'd probably feel bad about having to kill a child but war is hell and I'd rather save lives by killing an enemy than watch more of our own get killed. That is the humane way.

So the solution, to prevent women getting killed, is to not allow women to be in ground combat.


Let me ask a question to the people who disagree with women in combat.
Have you ever served in combat with a woman? I was in the service for four years stationed in Germany and Israel, I never saw a bullet or a battlefield but if I did, I would rather go with some of the woman who had their heads screwed on right then some of the men who thought the Army was a joke and a cupcake and wanted to screw everything in sight.

Hello Sinn Féin, no I haven't been in combat. Good for you that you served well. This brings us back to the main subject, not whether to shoot a woman. But whether it is right that woman be in the ground combat, mentioned in the end.


As I've already pointed out a few months ago on this thread, women can and do serve in combat roles in Israel. They are more than capable.

What strikes me as interesting is that lionheart, whom by his own admission has never fired a weapon in defence of his country or life, seems to think that there is a nice coherant order in which this exchange of fire is handled.

He sees it as something out of a movie. Which by his own admission is where he gets most of his experience from. A movie where every 'shot' fired and every movement is choreographed.

Hands up, how many of you here have been in a fist fight? Hands up how many of you were in a fight that flowed exactly the same manner that a fist fight occurs in the movies.

This is why people like lionheart get on my last tit. It amounts to nothing more than someone trying to do brain surgery after watching General Hospital.

I'm also begining to wonder if lionheart is a woman. There's something about the manner in which lionheart frames his/her responses that doesn't sound like a man. In fact I'm begining to wonder if lionheart isn't a feminazi.

I noticed now you're a woman from "They are more than capable." and "This is why people like lionheart get on my last tit" so I take my hat off to you :)

More capable might be true as I recall female students are less distracted and concentrate more, but I don’t think the average of physical endurance of men is less than the average of the physical endurance of women.

A bit about me, as I said I'm a guy. I work in the domain of custom software development for businesses. I have high patience for forum based verbal abuse as anger doesn't serve any purpose but waste time. I don't believe in sex before marriage. Enough for now ;)



Did you completely ignore my post? The man was driving an IDF Caterpillar D9 Bull Douser; this machine is massive, look it up. It has blind spots directly in front, on both sides (front and back), and in the rear. Rachel Corrie was standing directly in front of blade while obstructing it with debris. Don’t you understand? Not only was she in a blind spot, but she was behind debris to top it off.
Now look at the situation once again. This protester is standing in a security zone where Palestinian terrorists were receiving weapons from Egypt. The area was condemned by the IDF. She is rubbing shoulders with Arab terrorists while trying to illegally obstruct a military bull douser. Not only is she hidden by debris and blind spots, but the area is no doubt filled with commotion and clamor. The Caterpillar itself is a loud machine; mix this clamor with the sound of crumbling buildings, people yelling, and other vehicles. Now I ask you, how in the hell was the man supposed to hear her? You’re just grabbing for straws now my friend. Face it, these Palestinian terrorists are not the innocent people you think they are.

My friend, it is bad to say the Palestinians are terrorists. Its like saying Americans are terrorists. You are condemning a whole nation to be terrorists. If the man driving the caterpillar cannot see a women waving and shouting how can he see where he is driving. The bulldozer has windows and there was daylight. The driver killed an innocent young woman and the Israeli government makes a story and that they interrogated the driver. And because they knew the American people would still be angry at them because they killed an American girl, they make up stories that she was supporting terrorists and hated USA etc. This I all not true. She was doing this for human rights, for the families being thrown on the streets and their houses demolished. Israeli government can say what all want but I don't believe a government that has no respect for human life, kills women (they previously killed a lot of Palestinian women) and shot human rights activists and TV reporters and they demolishes homes of innocents and takes their land. It is the Palestinians’ land they were there first. They had houses which they lived and farms which they planted and stores and all that. It was a country.

You are saying it is ok to demolish the houses and families and remove them because they don't have a government of the type we like. Because you say the government is not good, then it is ok to remove the houses of civilians, together with whose inside. Ss if it’s not enough that the civilian Palestinians are dying from hunger and disease and no place to live. You have to also call them terrorists..


But she was supporting terrorists. You ignore me time and time again.
The area she was “protesting” at was deemed a security zone. Terrorist activity was going on there, and she helped defend it!
This only proves that know absolutely nothing about Israeli/Palestinian history. They could have had their land, but they rejected it and waged war on Israel. All of the land Israel has was legitimately conquered, and the blame can go to the aggressors: the Palestinians, the Egyptians, the Lebanese, the Jordanians, and the Syrians. If Palestine wants to be treated like the peace-loving country liberals seem to think they are, then I have a good idea…. Quit blowing shit up.

Whoever blows shit up is a terrorist. I personally think they are not muslims who are doing this. In iraq bombs in cars that blow up killing iraqis and americans. Anybody could do this not necessarily iraqis. This serves to give a reason to justify what the US is doing in Iraq. Suicide bombers are brain washed to think that this is good and they will go to heaven and all in the name of muslims which is bullsh*t. This creates a reason each day for Israelis to demolish homes, take land and blow up houses with planes. Israel is benefiting from this. Everyday more land is being taken and I imagine less that third if not less has remained for Palestine. This is a strategy to make bombs by unknown people, beheadings on videos by mask wearing people, etc all to give reason for occupation, taking land and more.

The main subject here though is whether women to be allowed to fight, kill and be killed? In religions it is wrong to kill women and children in battles. They should be treated with mercy always. This does not mean women are the same as children. Some women are stronger than men. But this is not the point. The point is if we put women in combat then, the opposing forces would clash and many women would get killed which would violate the requirements of religions. Now since the religions are the religions of God, it is very important that we apply the requirements. Who is the judge who will get you to heaven or hell when you die in combat? A person’s country and the people of his government will not get him to heaven after he dies. So your countries laws are not the primary concern. They are secondary concern. The primary concern is God's laws. He is the one who will judge the person and decide where he goes.

Good night, been a long day zzz

[Madcowhunter]

My friend, it is bad to say the Palestinians are terrorists. Its like saying Americans are terrorists. You are condemning a whole nation to be terrorists. I didn’t condemn the whole nation. And saying Palestinians are terrorists is nothing like saying Americans are terrorists. The Palestinian government (the Hamas) has openly supported terrorism. Yasser Arafat (before he died) sent in people to do suicide bombings and car bombings. If these are the people the Palestinians want to represent them, then there is something terribly wrong with them. The Israelis are not killing random Palestinians or destroying random areas. The bulldozing area was deemed a security area for the third time! It was being controlled by terrorists, and action had to be taken.

If the man driving the caterpillar cannot see a women waving and shouting how can he see where he is driving. The bulldozer has windows and there was daylight. Ah, so the laws of science don’t apply in the daylight? Just because it is daytime, people have the ability to see through solid objects? For the last time, she was standing in the bulldozer’s blind spot…. It is called a blind spot for a specific reason, you cannot see in that spot! Haven’t you ever taken driver’s education? Didn’t they teach you about blind spots? She was standing directly in front of the blade, an obvious blind spot.

The driver killed an innocent young woman and the Israeli government makes a story and that they interrogated the driver. And because they knew the American people would still be angry at them because they killed an American girl, they make up stories that she was supporting terrorists and hated USA etc. I assume you have proof of this? I got all of my information from legitimate news articles and encyclopedias. You get all of your information from left wing blogs.
You really think it’s the Israeli media that is feeding the BS?
http://www.pmw.org.il/LatestBulletins.htm#b120606 (http://www.pmw.org.il/LatestBulletins.htm#b120606)

This I all not true. She was doing this for human rights, for the families being thrown on the streets and their houses demolished. Israeli government can say what all want but I don't believe a government that has no respect for human life, kills women (they previously killed a lot of Palestinian women) and shot human rights activists and TV reporters and they demolishes homes of innocents and takes their land. No, like yourself, she was tricked into “thinking” it was for human rights by the Palestinians. Procedure 1 in the terrorist handbook is to play the victim. If the terrorists can trick people into thinking that their human rights are being violated, then they’ve already won. Palestine does a great job of this by releasing propaganda and BS reports.
Rachel Collie thought she was a humanitarian, but she was nothing more than a terrorist sympathizer.
You haven’t acknowledged any of the atrocities the Palestinians committed during the Intifada. You haven’t acknowledged the fact that Palestine is controlled by the Hamas, a terrorist organization. You haven’t acknowledged how the Palestinians drew first blood by violently attacking peaceful Jewish immigrants. And you failed to acknowledge how the terrorists were going to kidnap Rachel’s parents (proof that they were terrorists), but stopped when they realized Rachel was their daughter (proof that Rachel was a terrorist sympathizer).

It is the Palestinians’ land they were there first. They had houses which they lived and farms which they planted and stores and all that. It was a country. Again, you ignored my history lesson.

Palestine wasn’t a country; they were nothing more than vagabonds left over form the remnants of the Ottoman Empire.
All Palestinian property was owned by the British Empire.
The Jews were not “occupying” the “Palestinian territory”. They were peaceful immigrants.
The Arabs were offered almost half of the land, but they responded by ambushing the Jews.
If you really want to talk about “who was there first”, the Jews were… Hundreds of years ago.
Who was there first is beside the point. The Israelis have taken good care of their land since their establishment; something the Palestinians failed to do.
Israelis are not taking anybody’s land. They earned it through legitimate conquest.
Once again, if the Palestinians want Israel to leave them alone… I have an idea… Quit bombing shit, and come to an agreement.
The Palestinians don’t even want peace. They want blood.
You are saying it is ok to demolish the houses and families and remove them because they don't have a government of the type we like. Because you say the government is not good, then it is ok to remove the houses of civilians, together with whose inside. Ss if it’s not enough that the civilian Palestinians are dying from hunger and disease and no place to live. You have to also call them terrorists.. The demolished houses of the so-called “innocents” were partaking in illegal terrorist activity. The Israeli government informs them that the area was deemed a security risk, and even gives them time to evacuate. But what do the “peace-loving” Palestinians do? Ah yes, resist…resist…resist…and blow shit up. If the Palestinains are upset with their current situation… Then here is a procure.

Quit the terrorist BS.
Come to an agreement with Israel
Kick out the Hamas.
For once in the history of the world, actually create a decent civilization rather than roam around like a vagabond.
Whoever blows shit up is a terrorist. I personally think they are not muslims who are doing this. In iraq bombs in cars that blow up killing iraqis and americans. Anybody could do this not necessarily iraqis. This serves to give a reason to justify what the US is doing in Iraq. Suicide bombers are brain washed to think that this is good and they will go to heaven and all in the name of muslims which is bullsh*t. I agree. Terrorists do this crap all the time. But you know what? The Palestinian government supports it.

This creates a reason each day for Israelis to demolish homes, take land and blow up houses with planes. Israel is benefiting from this. Everyday more land is being taken and I imagine less that third if not less has remained for Palestine. This is a strategy to make bombs by unknown people, beheadings on videos by mask wearing people, etc all to give reason for occupation, taking land and more. Oh wow, the Palestinians have gotten to you haven’t they? Have you ever met anyone from Israel? You just gather this crap from leftist blogs and Palestinian propaganda huh?
Before you blow a gasket on Israel, actually do some individual research. Specifically regarding terrorists and terror tactics. Palestinians practically play by the book themselves.

The main subject here though is whether women to be allowed to fight, kill and be killed? In religions it is wrong to kill women and children in battles. They should be treated with mercy always. This does not mean women are the same as children. Some women are stronger than men. But this is not the point. The point is if we put women in combat then, the opposing forces would clash and many women would get killed which would violate the requirements of religions. Now since the religions are the religions of God, it is very important that we apply the requirements. Who is the judge who will get you to heaven or hell when you die in combat? A person’s country and the people of his government will not get him to heaven after he dies. So your countries laws are not the primary concern. They are secondary concern. The primary concern is God's laws. He is the one who will judge the person and decide where he goes. I don’t believe the Bible says anything about making special occasions do bypass his laws when it revolves around a female or a child.
If a female kills, then they are a killer, period. They are no different from men when they commit crimes or fight in battle, and do not deserve special treatment.